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Great comment westwind
posted by
justAcarpenter
on November 24, 2004 at 12:31 PM
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one thing about god and satan
these persons are not real -- because they are just that -- persons.
liberation from personifying evil and good will take us a long way toward discovering the truly valid path to our salvation.
these are things on which we can place blame -- god did it -- or satan did it -- understand?
but yes -- we have the opportunity to choose a higher way of living -- and that might mean that this conflicts with what those closest to us feel -- and there just might be disagreements.
I think pretty close to that passage, Yeshua said, "No man, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for spiritual realms."
Plowing a straight furrow means that you have to fix your gaze on a point ahead of you and head straight for that point. If you look back, you discover that your furrow has deviated and heads in the wrong direction.
Keep your gaze fixed to the goal. Don't wish for what was. Don't mourn leaving the attraction of the previous way of living.
In the same manner, we must not mourn the changing of relationships with our new discovery and life style. We are born anew. The old, fleshly lifestyle is dead to us. Those embracing it are, not dead to us, but their lifestyle is -- it is not ours.
posted by
Xeno-x
on November 24, 2004 at 8:05 AM
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Unicorn -
Thanks for commenting. It is the ultimate relationship. I just wonder if people really understand what must be given up to keep the relationship strong.
posted by
sannhet
on November 24, 2004 at 6:07 AM
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JustA -
An interesting take. Truth vs. Lie. I like it.
posted by
sannhet
on November 24, 2004 at 6:04 AM
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justA
thanks!
posted by
PastorB
on November 23, 2004 at 9:09 PM
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Unicorn
I really like your comment…
posted by
justAcarpenter
on November 23, 2004 at 9:02 PM
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One more thing
This division and its consequences are necessary in order to lead Mankind to understand. As a whole, they will go where there are compelled (or told) to go…period. God (The Truth) Always Wins…even Satan (the liar or lies) knows that he cannot exist without “God” to define him…
posted by
justAcarpenter
on November 23, 2004 at 8:50 PM
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sannhet
Sorry for the long comment.
I just read your previous post, all of the comments it generated, and then this post.
There is a little bit more to this one, than meets the eye. That quote, is globally all inclusive. More than the normally perceived conflicts that arise between Christians and all others (a very limited view). In fact, it is even broader than the conflicts that arise between unlabeled believers and nonbelievers.
If one watches the news, reads the papers, and genuinely tries to observe their society; they will begin to witness this division (review the quote) occurring in all directions and in all places. They will also notice, that it is occurring even within families that share the same generalized beliefs…regardless of what that particular belief is. The more one looks, the more one will see, that this division does not discriminate (based upon self appointed labels). It is effecting everyone, regardless of their belief, or location on this planet.
Just watch for the signs, we already know that husbands and wives split up. But these conflicts have extended to include parent child and sibling relationships. Has anyone every noticed, children suing their parents or siblings suing each other? What about all of the smaller fights or conflicts? Where do these divisions come from?
Mankind (must) go in a certain direction, and for time being, they don’t want to go.
Notice in that last sentence that I said “Mankind”…not just Christians or Muslims or Jews. This is because, everyone has to play their part. All people carry inside their minds, little (or big) lies that they believe in. These lies are received by others, analyzed, and if caught they are rejected. One by one, all lies, little or big, are being defeated. Sometimes, entire groups of people, lose all at once…
It is not between or about labels…it is about Truth or lie…
posted by
justAcarpenter
on November 23, 2004 at 8:35 PM
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sann,
you are right, the only relationship that matters is the one we have with God (no quotation marks needed) and the rest will fall into place.
posted by
PastorB
on November 23, 2004 at 8:29 PM
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