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Hi sannhet

Basically, that is what I see.

posted by justAcarpenter on February 25, 2005 at 10:32 AM | link to this | reply

JustA -

So do you see all the different realities experienced as one big reality?

posted by sannhet on February 25, 2005 at 6:48 AM | link to this | reply

pappy

That foot hold is Reality…in the rawest sense of the word.

God created Reality…why do people want more?

The creation of Existence is the biggest miracle of all.

posted by justAcarpenter on February 24, 2005 at 9:16 PM | link to this | reply

sannhet
There are probably a large number of alternate realities that we inhabit all at the same time. We can be on line, on the phone, daydreaming, in a conversation, experiencing deja va and driving a car all at once. 'Swear there ain't no heaven and pray there ain't no hell' is another schizoid version of trying to live a lie. Not completely dead, only mostly dead, according to Miracle Max. The trouble with alternate realities is finding a foothold. Castaneda said it was standing on a ledge in a high wind. I think the guiding principle of finding your way there and back again is intent. The shamaan wants to heal the body, but Jesus wants us to awaken the spirit. Heaven is our alternate reality and the Kingdom has been right here for two millenia.

posted by pappy on February 24, 2005 at 5:50 PM | link to this | reply

Roofpig -
Thanks.

posted by sannhet on February 24, 2005 at 3:14 PM | link to this | reply

Painter -
I too have experienced non-ordinary reality - some pretty hair-raising experiences as a matter of fact. But none that one might consider evil. I'm convinced though, of the abilities of those who heal this way. And it sure seems to be similar to what Yeshua and others did.

posted by sannhet on February 24, 2005 at 3:12 PM | link to this | reply

there were many messiah's in Yeshua's day

performing many of the miracles related in the gospels

all sorts of rabbis and such.

I sometimes wonder if one of the rabbis mentioned was none other than the Yeshua of the gospels.

but -- tapping into a source of perception beyond what we usually perceive -- there could be a common source -- or many sources

and once we perceive, what do we perceive?

I have experienced perception other than the mundane -- not heavy -- but some light stuff.  It does convince me.

posted by Xeno-x on February 24, 2005 at 2:24 PM | link to this | reply

I don't know why you aren't on my favorites list.  I need to remedy that right now...

posted by roofpig on February 24, 2005 at 1:37 PM | link to this | reply