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Sannhet,
Maybe won't, but certainly not can't!
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posted by
Ciel
on March 21, 2005 at 7:13 PM
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Ciel -
Great piece on forgiveness. Unfortunately, because of Ego for many, forgiveness of self is not possible in this life.
posted by
sannhet
on March 21, 2005 at 6:54 PM
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Oceandancer, and CherryPie, great comments! Thanks!
It's always gratifying when others add their wisdom to apost! Both your points are very well taken!
posted by
Ciel
on March 21, 2005 at 4:30 PM
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Kingmi, I forgive you...
I thought it might be something like that...
posted by
Ciel
on March 21, 2005 at 4:28 PM
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Wonderful post
This is a wonderful post, Ciel. At the risk of preaching (and do forgive me if this is how I sound!) it's been my experience that whether I forgive or don't forgive another person, it doesn't do anything to that other person. They continue to reap the fruits of their actions. But if I don't forgive, then I go on endlessly torturing myself, remembering the action, thinking about how I'm going to pay them back, reliving the experience. So if I just forgive, it's finished and I don't have to think about it anymore. *hugs* C.P.
posted by
Cherry_Pie
on March 21, 2005 at 4:24 PM
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Great post. And I've found you may have to go back again and again to
forgive on new and deeper levels.
posted by
Oceandancer
on March 21, 2005 at 4:01 PM
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Ciel, I was trying to say that without knowing you had resonated meaning within my consciousness. Perhaps a better word would have been fertile.
posted by
kingmi
on March 21, 2005 at 3:58 PM
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Kingmi, I'm not sure what you mean by 'furtive'
but I believe we are in agreement that forgiveness does not mean giving someone license to continue disordering one's world. Forgiveness does not mean pretending that something works, that doesn't: it does not preclude finding better solutions. It means letting go of resentment and accusation and the urge for revenge.
I believe we have the responsibility not to expect the one we forgive to get stronger or nicer or better, but to change what we need to change in ourselves to make it less easy for the other to hurt us again.
posted by
Ciel
on March 21, 2005 at 3:53 PM
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Ciel I take your point to be furtive and clear. I would add that it is still forgiveness to forgive, release and detach lovingly, if the one-way abusive relationship continues in a toxic environment.
posted by
kingmi
on March 21, 2005 at 3:09 PM
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