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one i try not to be is
definite
at least I think so.
why?
because, to paraphrase two particular passages in the scriptures, "God speaks to various people in various manners (from Hebrews) and "with a stuttering or stammering tongue and halting speech, here a little and there a little."
in other words, god is not defnite.
again -- like water that conforms to the shape of its vessel.
the important thing is to seek
seek means to question, explore the new vistas, find the treasure that is waiting.
along our individual paths, each of us finds their particular treasure.
posted by
Xeno-x
on April 13, 2005 at 12:15 PM
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A very interesting post...
I think the reason that most people do not make the connection they seek with divinity is the "interruptions" of mundane life.
Mike's Goddess
posted by
mikes_goddess
on April 10, 2005 at 8:31 AM
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Godd reference, sannhet
I expect a real seeker could find God anywhere, anytime.
posted by
pappy
on April 9, 2005 at 7:59 PM
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Cherry Pie -
Thanks for the comment. And you are right. We can't know the All through normal perception. IT's all about overcoming Ego through working within.
posted by
sannhet
on April 9, 2005 at 6:35 PM
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Metta -
I really like the poem you posted. It certainly does offer a good example of what one must go through. Thanks.
posted by
sannhet
on April 9, 2005 at 6:31 PM
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Avant -
Really good questions. And I certainly can see the symbolism being tied to the Lotus.
posted by
sannhet
on April 9, 2005 at 6:30 PM
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Ah, that is an interesting passage, Sannhet. It could equate to the process of reaching Nivrichara Samadhi - thoughtless awareness - where one is not disturbed by the constant chattering of the thought processes, and is peaceful, secure and can grow spiritually. As far as I am aware, Yeshua's disciples did not attain this state until after His death, when it was perceived as flames above their heads? This is the thousand petalled lotus of Sahasrara, where a thousand nerves accumulate in the limbic area. When N.S. has been achieved (i.e. the Spirit which resides in the heart, and by Kundalini awakening has risen and enlightened the brain) then Sahasrara glows like flames. The aspirant would perceive such a state on the central nervous system. There would be nothing 'blind faith' about it.
The voice of God cannot be heard in the ordinary human state. It is perceived only as silence and the flowering of a feeling, and is much beyond our perception. We can, however, pick up ideas from the subconscious and the supraconscious that take us off track. That is why humans need avatars of the Divine, to put them on the right course, until by Union (Yoga) of their individual soul with the all pervading Divine, they can become their own Masters. Until this has been achieved we are simply children in the Maya (illusion), wrapped in duality because we see ourselves as separate from the reality and not part and parcel of the whole. So we feel alone. So we become seekers.
posted by
Cherry_Pie
on April 9, 2005 at 7:07 AM
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sannhet, I enjoyed this posting very much. Yes, I do believe man can reach Oneness with God... especially through the mystic's path. St John of The Cross speaks of this union as do other saints - from all religions... I have a feeling you already know this (smile).
I wanted to add this about the Lotus, which is a very good example of enlightnment and what men must go through - I pulled this from an old email I posted to a list:
The flowering head of the Lotus plant has been a symbol of spirituality in
India for thousands of years. The life cycle of the Lotus plant begins when
a Lotus seed finds its way into the sediments at the bottom of some warm
little pond somewhere.
Though barely able to see the light through the murky water, the new shoot
strives upwards until eventually it bursts into the light, bringing the
beauty of its delicate petals to the pool's surface.
During their development, the plants filter and purify the body of water in
which they find themselves, making the water transparent.
According to a traditional saying, the more muddy and opaque the water is to
start with, the more beautiful the Lotus flower is when it arrives.
I love that... the more muddy and opaque the water is to start with, the more beautiful the Lotus flower is when it arrives... I'm going to be a beautiful bloom one day... smile
~Metta
posted by
Metta
on April 8, 2005 at 4:41 PM
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sannhet
i think there are an abundance of examples of those who have transcended the ego. i was just thinking about baptism a minute ago, and i remember something i read about a lotus. it is symbolized in the East alot as the human, who exists for the most part subconsciously (underwater), but flowers above the water, rising out of the subconscious. can that be the real symobolism of being submerged under water, as it was done in the early Christian church? was it symbolic of emerging from the subconscious?
posted by
avant-garde
on April 8, 2005 at 3:40 PM
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