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It can be done, sannhet
There needs to be an interaction between being and doing. We must learn to translate what we know into our actions. We know we are responsible for our intentions and will live forever, so what do we do? If you woke up in paradise, what would be your first act?
posted by
pappy
on April 28, 2005 at 5:22 PM
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Painter -
I agree. But I am wondering if one can lose self-importance with all the demands that the normal person has in this reality we call life?
posted by
sannhet
on April 28, 2005 at 3:00 PM
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pondering your statement
Yeshua tells us that if we love anything more than him, we are not worthy of him.
Yeshua used himself as an "everyman" -- I think when he said "son of man" he referred more to the human being than anything, to himself at times as an epitome. son of man refers to just a man -- a human -- and as an epithet given to the prophets, it emphasizes their humanness and imperfection. when we see the phrase "son of man" in the gospels, why don't we try thinking of human beings. the Old Testament does so.
He also states that if we don’t carry a cross (bear the heavy burden of following him), we are not worthy of him.
Cross -- that's a symbol of suffering and sacrificing. Yeshua's sacrifice was as the lambs at Passover for the sins of the people -- our personal sacrifice should be the diminishing of the self in order to serve others better. some people are natural sacrificial lambs -- that's unhealthy. But to subvert the self and all that the self wants so that others might be helped -- that is the cross.
He is basically telling us that nothing comes before him. So, if we have a life filled with children’s soccer games and getting the minivan fixed, of dance recitals and working overtime, of a leaky roof and getting the dog to the vet, can we possibly meet Yeshua’s criteria? Can we truly be doing all of this and yet put Yeshua first so that we can see the next invisible rung on the ladder of ascension?
much of this type of action is self -- raising of the self through these things. possession.
it was possessions that turned the young rich man away -- the refusal to "sell all that thou hast and give to the poor" -- the disciplers asked "Who then, can be saved?" because they knew that we all have possessions -- things that are themselves a burden that keeps us from rising to true spiritual realms. and these activities are possessions, just as is an auto -- a accrual to the Self.
"lose self-importance" says the Nagual.
Yeshua says basically the same thing.
posted by
Xeno-x
on April 28, 2005 at 2:34 PM
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Yeshua was the human.
Christ is that which should be first.
Christ in us.
The sacred in all that we encounter.
Jesus is an obscure, amorphic concept in the dim distance that people use to insulate themselves from the world around.
But that which is sacred is the world around.
And we individually are as sacred as all else.
That sacredness should be first.
And it can enacted in our everyday lives. Each moment, each encounter, each action -- all is of the Sacredness.
posted by
Xeno-x
on April 28, 2005 at 2:05 PM
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