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CarolynMoe, you are an original so I have no qualms
posted by
Azur
on May 11, 2005 at 2:21 PM
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uhhh, huuuh... 
posted by
cmoe
on May 11, 2005 at 2:04 PM
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MayB, guilt is internal and not always appropriate
either in its absence or presence.
I don't feel unjindly towards those who plagiarize (other people), but I wish their cut-and-paste were, as you say, a blue link to the original.
In 1981, my microbiology class was daily riddled with "Preppies" asking during lectures "Is this going to be on the final?" and even trying to get the better students to do their homework outright, then showing offense when one told them "No".
So much attempted cheating and actual saboutage (trying to undercut people in the hopes the class curve would shift their way) that the final was given in groups of eight with one and sometimes two proctors per group.
This was at "an accredited institute of higher learning" and the class was aimed at those entering the health care professions (although many took it thinking it would be easier than the regular class).
posted by
majroj
on May 11, 2005 at 6:18 AM
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Like I said Ca88andra, it's how you go about it
posted by
Azur
on May 11, 2005 at 4:11 AM
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Well luckily by writing my journal the only person I have to interview is me! But seriously, when I wrote for a sports website I interviewed several Australian sports stars. It wasn't easy to get interviews, but it wasn't that hard either.
posted by
Ca88andra
on May 11, 2005 at 4:06 AM
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That's so very true. I have seen my own writing being copied in an article, published here locally, by someone else. I was frustrated. And its becomeng a common practise.
posted by
Elan27
on May 11, 2005 at 2:18 AM
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Zentropa, I agree but what's worse is when people paste in the whole damned thing and don't properly credit it or don't credit it at all.
Yes people should explain why they linked to something
posted by
Azur
on May 11, 2005 at 12:26 AM
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I know what you mean. It always annoys me when somebody has as their whole journal entry a link to an article on another site. That seems okay in a forum, where the point of the thread is to comment on the article. But when it's your own journal entry, you should at least make some attempt to give us your own take on it as well.
posted by
zentropa
on May 10, 2005 at 11:53 PM
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Ms N Dependence, I can't wait to see it
posted by
Azur
on May 10, 2005 at 9:10 PM
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And Majroj,, I wonder why it is that those who shouldn't feel guilty are the ones who always end up feeling guilty?
posted by
Azur
on May 10, 2005 at 9:10 PM
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Majroj, I am not demanding Pulitzer standard blogs......well .....................................not this week but I don't see the point in reprinting the material written by others and passing it off as one's own. Why don't people just give a link and point people towards good stuff giving credit where it's due?
posted by
Azur
on May 10, 2005 at 9:09 PM
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Ginnieb, there are some who really make an effort but I am not prepared to spoonfeed the others.
I had a similar experience to you as a student and had no choice but to be disciplined.
posted by
Azur
on May 10, 2005 at 9:05 PM
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terpgirl30, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind but quite honestly it does make me wonder when so many show no initiative.
I tell them not to wait til they are finished their studies to build up their portfolio. Why wait?
posted by
Azur
on May 10, 2005 at 9:03 PM
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MayB....
...I know those types of students. I went back to college to finish my degree when I was 30. I had three children to care for, my youngest just two...I used to take her with me to the daycare there. I used to get outraged when the 'young' students complained about the work, constantly asked for extensions on papers and just always tried to find the easy way out. I was never late with an assignment and ended up right near the top of my class each year. If the interest and desire are strong enough then you have a motivated, energetic student and what's the point of being there if that doesn't exist! I can imagine your frustration!
posted by
ginnieb
on May 10, 2005 at 9:00 PM
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ThomasFranklin, I would like one to replace my memory
posted by
Azur
on May 10, 2005 at 9:00 PM
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I would like a gene please which let me have the knowledge to spell correctly-basically a websters dictionary in my head.
posted by
ThomasFranklin
on May 10, 2005 at 8:26 PM
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The slugs!!!
I was published professionally while I was in high school. In college, I lived 45 minutes east of the college. For a college class, I did about a story a week. That meant coming home (45 minutes), driving another 1/2 an hour to whatever it was, coming home (1/2 hour), writing it, then driving in the totally opposite direction late at night to slip my article under the door of the local newspaper. They published every one, and those clips worked well for me later on.
If your J-students think interviews are hard for them now...geez...try cold calling the NYPD, asking them what their policy on recruiting gay cops. Or, my second big article on cult-related crime which won me threats (physical) and lawsuit threats. That was pretty hard, too.
You have to be shaking your head. I'm sure you've gone through more in your personal life, in addition to trying to teach them, than they have trying to do a few class assignments.
Kim
posted by
terpgirl30
on May 10, 2005 at 7:22 PM
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Actually, as I was saying
I often can't decide how much of your comments I take personally are due to the fact that it's true and I feel guilty, or because it's true and it's sheer coincidence that I have all these defects, er, character traits.
But it's true. I sort of use this for "playland" after a long day talking to socipaths, liars, misfits, and the inmates. I really don't have many more stories of interest to anyone "outside a small circle of friends". I'm not contributing to any body of blog.
I'M NOT WORTHY! I'M NOT WORTHY!
(Naw, I'm okay. I'm helping pay the rest of you guys!).

posted by
majroj
on May 10, 2005 at 6:54 PM
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Click

(Lazy enough?)
posted by
majroj
on May 10, 2005 at 6:46 PM
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Hmmm...
MayB - you've inspired a post for me. Is that being lazy or just creative? I hope the latter!
posted by
Transcendental_Child
on May 10, 2005 at 5:37 PM
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