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good post
you really can feel yourself becoming lighter. it's amazing.

posted by avant-garde on August 17, 2005 at 1:03 PM | link to this | reply

mmm-w,
thanks so much. it's a difficult subject for people to read about, but so important.

posted by Julia. on August 17, 2005 at 8:35 AM | link to this | reply

wiley--
LOL. If forgiveness were called for, I surely would forgive you.

posted by Julia. on August 17, 2005 at 8:34 AM | link to this | reply

Isa--
yes, very true. thanks.

posted by Julia. on August 17, 2005 at 8:32 AM | link to this | reply

Mayb--
Actually I think when people deny or lie, the root is almost always embarrassment. Of course they know the truth, but it pains them to admit it, so they deny it to themselves and others.

posted by Julia. on August 17, 2005 at 8:32 AM | link to this | reply

manya--
very please to make your acquaintance...I shall be over shortly to read you!

posted by Julia. on August 17, 2005 at 8:30 AM | link to this | reply

this was a good post.... i remember you posted about forgiveness not long ago and it was a post that truly moved me. once again, you've done it....

posted by mmm-w on August 17, 2005 at 7:15 AM | link to this | reply

Quirkyalone

Thinkin' good thoughts about ya luv. Nice post. "Bear and forbear" Epictetus.

I like that 'cuz I have  bears here luv. So you forgive me then for not readin' ya enough sweetie?? lol

posted by WileyJohn on August 17, 2005 at 6:59 AM | link to this | reply

yea...forgiveness is hard...
when we manage to forgive, we feel better inside...

posted by Marshallengraved on August 17, 2005 at 6:57 AM | link to this | reply

The main person we must forgive is our self - not easy.
I forgive or at least don't hold grudges. Sometimes, however, I find it hard to understand when people will deny something they have done even though deep down somewhere on some level they must know it to be true. I wonder if it means that they can't forgive themselves or that they have no conscience

posted by Azur on August 17, 2005 at 4:55 AM | link to this | reply

nice one
nice post!! i am one of the newest in here and this is the first post i have read in here....nice one...!!

posted by manya_ns on August 16, 2005 at 11:49 PM | link to this | reply

just--
so many people seem to forget that it really is a choice--they say, "how could she" forgive etc...she could because she chose to. thanks for reading.

posted by Julia. on August 16, 2005 at 11:00 PM | link to this | reply

Sometimes choices ar hard. Forgivness is a choice. A necessary one.

Good post, very good. BB

posted by Justi on August 16, 2005 at 10:58 PM | link to this | reply

good evening Jacenta,
and thanks for reading!

posted by Julia. on August 16, 2005 at 10:53 PM | link to this | reply

Hi Quirkyalone,
Great post!  Yes, it is best to forgive and put it behind us.   

posted by jacentaOld on August 16, 2005 at 10:46 PM | link to this | reply

mysteria--
inspiring someone to think is one of the greatest compliments a write can get--thanks!! As for the question about the universe forgiving...I don't know the answer.

posted by Julia. on August 16, 2005 at 10:44 PM | link to this | reply

QuirkyAlone

I have been hurt by people in ways in which I still feel much pain.  I think that I have forgiven them.  All of them as in I really never held them personally responsible for what I experienced as a result of their choices.  I see it as the nature of things.  Acts of nature..like lightning hitting a tree, then snowballing into a firestorm...so much devestation on so many levels...

I think my pain shows that perhaps I have not forgiven.  It is not the people so much as it is being part and parcel of an existence that is involved in evil.

Is it possible to forgive the universe...?  Thanks for your blog.  I see it has inspired much thought for me... nice

posted by mysteria on August 16, 2005 at 10:06 PM | link to this | reply

word.smith--
here, here!!

posted by Julia. on August 16, 2005 at 8:01 PM | link to this | reply

MayB--
true enough in theory, although sometimes it's not quite so easy in practice. stuff happens, you know?

posted by Julia. on August 16, 2005 at 8:01 PM | link to this | reply

renigade--
peas stop.

posted by Julia. on August 16, 2005 at 7:59 PM | link to this | reply

Quirky,

I'm definitely in favour of giving 'peas' a chance.  I know for a fact that it's mighty liberating.

posted by word.smith on August 16, 2005 at 7:25 PM | link to this | reply

Quirky,

posted by word.smith on August 16, 2005 at 7:24 PM | link to this | reply

I don't let things fester in me or between me and others--I air them. That avoids wars - or it should.

posted by Azur on August 16, 2005 at 7:08 PM | link to this | reply

I want my PEAS back!!!!!!!!!

posted by Renigade on August 16, 2005 at 6:25 PM | link to this | reply

Sandi--
Uh oh---careful...someone is liable to start a rumor that we are the same blogger! lol. Thanks for reading.

posted by Julia. on August 16, 2005 at 5:47 PM | link to this | reply

Alf--
Yes of course it is, because forgiveness is totally separate from liking or trusting.

posted by Julia. on August 16, 2005 at 5:46 PM | link to this | reply

Georgia--
I can see how that would help--you personalize it, and realize how it can make you feel, and therefore want to allow someone else to feel that as well.

posted by Julia. on August 16, 2005 at 5:45 PM | link to this | reply

BrightIrish--
Yes, absolutely that applies. It's all about the level of emotion surrounding someone/something.

posted by Julia. on August 16, 2005 at 5:44 PM | link to this | reply

Wow... all of that felt very true for me. Now it's you channeling me :o). Very wise words indeed. Thanks for sharing them, Sandi

posted by Sandra_Harris on August 16, 2005 at 5:06 PM | link to this | reply

I can't think of anyone I have not forgiven....I think it is ok to dislike someone you have forgiven though, or remain wary of that person and choose not to trust them again. 

posted by A_Norseman on August 16, 2005 at 4:47 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks for this very meaningful and thoughtful post!  It's so hard to remember the lesson of forgiveness, especially when that hurt is still raw, but it really does help!  Sometimes it helps me to think about bad things I've done to other people and that I'm very sorry for doing, and the relief I've felt when that person has forgiven me.   

posted by Georgia on August 16, 2005 at 4:08 PM | link to this | reply

QUIRKY....
Great Post! Someone once said that.. Those we find hardest to love are the ones who need it the most. I've found this to usually be the case. I believe that this would also apply to forgivness.

posted by BrightIrish on August 16, 2005 at 3:38 PM | link to this | reply