Go to I WRITE, THEREFORE I AM
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- Go to The face of a murderer........what does it really look like anyway??
Don't give out your address and/or go home with strangers!
Best if the 2 families can meet one another first, and run a background check just in case! Yikes!
posted by
bettyboop1967
on August 22, 2005 at 3:30 PM
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Silver--
Oh yes, I DID stop!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 22, 2005 at 9:22 AM
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OMG
what a scary thing. I think I would have stopped with the personals, at that point!
posted by
SilverMoon7
on August 22, 2005 at 12:35 AM
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isa--
where strangers are concerned, a little caution is a good thing, imo.
posted by
Julia.
on August 20, 2005 at 9:51 AM
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butterflygal--
sometimes personal experiences make the best stories! Thanks for flying by.
posted by
Julia.
on August 20, 2005 at 9:50 AM
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CA**--
Yes, when I saw his face on the news, it WAS quite a shock to say the least.
posted by
Julia.
on August 20, 2005 at 9:10 AM
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oh cripey--yapsel---lol---meant to type Tapsel!
posted by
Julia.
on August 20, 2005 at 9:10 AM
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Yapsel--
true enough, but most "past secrets" don't include dead bodies...
posted by
Julia.
on August 20, 2005 at 9:09 AM
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I know, Quirky...
i was the kind of naive woman to do the same...after a very recent betrayal from 2 persons who acted as posers on the net...i barely trust anyone...ppl are such fakes...sad to say, but it is the truth:(
posted by
Marshallengraved
on August 20, 2005 at 4:37 AM
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butterfly gal flying by
What a crazy story! My hairs went up on my arms. It's great you can make a story out of the experience.
posted by
butterflygal
on August 20, 2005 at 3:53 AM
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Quirky, every man has something hidden in his past, in his personality, in his intentions. Beware!
posted by
TAPS.
on August 20, 2005 at 1:23 AM
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What a shock that would have been!
posted by
Ca88andra
on August 20, 2005 at 1:11 AM
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Thomas, lol--
I'm a quirkyalone, I haven't been out in awhile...and this was a long time ago...ten years at least!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 9:27 PM
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A memorable date no doubt. Some of the nicest people are the most deceiving. Con men are very friendly and then the guard goes down....Who else have you been out with?
posted by
ThomasFranklin
on August 19, 2005 at 8:57 PM
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jimmy--thanks...
not sure I'd describe it as exciting...shocking...frightening, perhaps...thanks for the b-day wishes!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 8:23 PM
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Happy Birthday Quirkster...peace...
sounds like an exciting interlude there...to bad it wasn't in a better way...
posted by
jimmy68
on August 19, 2005 at 8:06 PM
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Georgia--
I've actually had my wonderful office for about 8 years, I love it, the separation of work and home is important...
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 7:42 PM
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Quirky
Great idea! I know it's probably more expensive than having your home as your offiicial office, but safer in the long run. Don't stop trusting ... just be careful!
posted by
Georgia
on August 19, 2005 at 7:36 PM
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Wiley one--yes I am more careful now, thanks!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 7:20 PM
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MayB--
it was a great comment--they ought to make t-shirts with that slogan...
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 7:13 PM
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You're welcome
posted by
Azur
on August 19, 2005 at 7:09 PM
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Georgia--
I rent an office now for my writing business, so no worries there...
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 7:02 PM
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Pickles--
You are just too cute!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 7:01 PM
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Isa--
I know, I did a stupid thing by giving him my address after only one date--but how many women every single day do this?? Probably a million. Still...I learned my lesson and thankfully for me, it wasn't the hard way.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 6:44 PM
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Silva--
Yes, it's possible--I don't know what was really going on inside his mind, he just seemed calm, though.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 6:39 PM
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Quirky
I dont' know what the moral of the story is ... I don't want to say that it's "don't trust anyone" because, how can we live if we're scared all the time and not willing to take risks? Also, you didn't realize until later that your business card had your home address on it ... I would have done the same thing and then later realized that it wasn't safe. Maybe the moral is, don't completely quit trusting, but totally modify your business cards to have a PO box!
posted by
Georgia
on August 19, 2005 at 5:25 PM
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WOW!!!! Congratulations, you're in the NO. 1 Blog Spot!!!!
posted by
littlemspickles
on August 19, 2005 at 3:41 PM
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Quirkyalone
Well now, that is toooooooooo Quirky and I hope you take more care now luv
posted by
WileyJohn
on August 19, 2005 at 3:26 PM
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the moral of the story...
is that you played with fire and that you should have been more cautious...i have been corresponding with a death row inmate in Arizona who had been charged with triple murder and who always claimed his innocence...i have even written a controversial article about him...the family of the victims posted on my place and said that i was brainless and that i could end up as his next victim...
i have been corresponding with him for about 2 years or more...he was always nice and polite, but in january 2005, he started writing me love poems and love letters asking me to come to the USA and to live with him...i have stopped the whole correspondance...this man scared me away and if he ever gets liberated, i will fear for myself, even if an ocean separates us...
You ought to be cautious with ppl...don't play with your own life...
posted by
Marshallengraved
on August 19, 2005 at 2:32 PM
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Quirky
I totally agree, perhaps I should qualify my second comment; the 'you' I use is collective, not aimed at anyone specific.
I spose its just possible that the guy was in shock from what he had done, or had no memory of it.
posted by
Silva-the-Wessex-Wench
on August 19, 2005 at 2:29 PM
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Silva--
and I want to add to my last sentence, because in reading it back it's not what I meant to say at all...I only meant that so many people judge others as worthless because of the things they do...I
don't do that no matter WHAT someone has done.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 2:07 PM
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MayB--
great comment, thanks!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 2:05 PM
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Silva--
For me, yes the time frame would make a difference, as would the circumstances. As I said to Avant, he was very outwardly calm which I am certain wasn't what he felt after killing someone the day before. Would I date a convicted murderer if he served time and was eventually released? I'm not sure...it would depend upon a lot of things...but I wouldn't automatically judge him to be a worthless human being.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 2:03 PM
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MayB
exactly, perhaps he didnt kill people he lunched with ! Life is much more complicated than fiction.
posted by
Silva-the-Wessex-Wench
on August 19, 2005 at 2:02 PM
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avant--
thanks for reading. I was most amazed by how calm he had seemed, though inside he must have been going a little bit crazy, worried and a whole mixture of emotions.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 2:00 PM
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I'm curious...
would it have been different if he'd murdered someone say, 10 years ago, had served some time and THEN came out and asked you to go for a coffee and you found out afterwards (not from him) that he had killed someone? Please dont think I'm picking holes, I'm just wondering by the reactions of most of the other commentators on this, if the timescale is significant or not.
posted by
Silva-the-Wessex-Wench
on August 19, 2005 at 1:59 PM
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The moral is -- I think that it was luck and circumstance that he didn't pursue. Perhaps he didn't kill people he lunched with. I danced once at a nightclub (ie a while ago) with someone who a few weeks later was locked up for being a serial rapist. He did not attack people he knew. He was the friend of a friend
posted by
Azur
on August 19, 2005 at 1:58 PM
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silva--
thanks...I agree with you on your points, absolutely...but this guy had already killed someone and a day later he meets me for a blind date and sits there as though nothing had happened. My point I guess to this post was that you can't be too careful, I did a really dumb thing in giving him my adddress--because what if he HAD come to my house?
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 1:56 PM
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quirky
that was close, huh? and, it is interesting that we create a monster whom we look for, when the real killers look rather harmless. enjoyed reading. you be careful out there! there is a lot of evil in the world today.
posted by
avant-garde
on August 19, 2005 at 1:52 PM
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Quirky, I did read the post
and if you'd like me to elabourate, all I can say is, they come from all walks of life and only become murderers when they commit the act. Up til then, they are the same as everyone else, potential murderers. If you go down the path of suspecting everyone, you'll never get out of bed again!
But, I was just answering your initail question. :)
posted by
Silva-the-Wessex-Wench
on August 19, 2005 at 1:51 PM
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shadow--
good thinking...esp. since there are soooooooo many people here who love me and want to send good wishes...lol...it's tough to be so hated but someone has to step up right??
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 1:49 PM
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MW--
Ya, we need that emoticon for sure!! But would it really be appropiate for you to use it? lol and
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 1:47 PM
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Quirky,
I doubt if he will be discussing work. He'll be too busy testing the hand cuffs, hehe. Yes, I know your birthday is tommorrow, that's why I said "rolling". I figured today would give a bigger audience then tommorrow as its a weekend. Shadow
posted by
Keshet
on August 19, 2005 at 1:42 PM
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Not Me
Damn where is that angel emoticon when I need it!!
posted by
Bel_
on August 19, 2005 at 1:42 PM
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MW--
to keep up with you, he just MIGHT!! lol.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 1:39 PM
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Do you really think
After this length of time the man will need pills? Hell, all I will have to do is breathe and all with do as it should. hehehehe
posted by
Bel_
on August 19, 2005 at 1:35 PM
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dang woman,
that looks like one big long snake in my comments! lol. Yes, poor hubby is right! I hope he pops some pills before he gets there!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 1:32 PM
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSssssssssssssssssssssssss
Oh boy, my poor husband.
posted by
Bel_
on August 19, 2005 at 1:30 PM
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Military Wife--ROFL!!
11.5 more days sweetheart, 11.5 more days!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 1:28 PM
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Shadow--
FBI guy---sounds fun as long as he doesn't want to talk about work...lol.
thanks for the wishes--you do know you're a day early right?
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 1:27 PM
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Yeah
Take the FBI guy!!! Oh nothing like the strong forceful type that has his own handcuffs....ooops sorry that is my fantasy LOL!
posted by
Bel_
on August 19, 2005 at 1:22 PM
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Quirky,
Not every guy is on that list. For example: Good looking FBI agents. Oh, BTW don't kill me but I did you a birthday card/post. Shadow
posted by
Keshet
on August 19, 2005 at 1:09 PM
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Shadow--
good advice but that would sure cut my dating pool down to nuthin'--
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 12:59 PM
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Medusa--yes, totally serious...
you may have been stunned, but not half as shocked as I was to see his face on the six-o-clock news!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 12:56 PM
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Quirky,
Now a days its always best to check out the FBI's "Most Wanted" list first before meeting a total stranger. Even then you never really know. Its a gamble for sure. BTW I left you a 
message if you haven't already found it. Happy early
. Shadow
posted by
Keshet
on August 19, 2005 at 12:45 PM
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Quirky...Are you serious? Wow, what a story....I'm stunned!
posted by
MedusaNextDoor
on August 19, 2005 at 12:41 PM
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Anna--
Yes, I was foolish and lucky.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 12:24 PM
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Merry--
Your comment made me LMAO--thanx!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 12:24 PM
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Pat--
there, and everywhere else! lol.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 12:23 PM
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strat--
well yeah I coulda done that, but I wanted to go on another date with the guy for cripes sake!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 12:23 PM
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Quirky,
OMG...that's crazy!!! I'd have been freaking!!!
posted by
SincerityAnna
on August 19, 2005 at 12:20 PM
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Jemmie--
At the time, I was pretty freaked out!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 12:13 PM
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the moral of the story...
hmmm
make sure he pays for the shrimp and get a PO Box for an address!
posted by
MerryAnne
on August 19, 2005 at 12:09 PM
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About Oregon...
Weirdos don't always come to Oregon. Sometimes they're born there. :)
posted by
Pat_B
on August 19, 2005 at 12:07 PM
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The moral of the story
is always give 'em someone else's business card!
Damn, Quirky!
posted by
strat
on August 19, 2005 at 12:06 PM
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Scary!!!
How totally frightening!!!
J always tells me I trust people too much and get myself into sticky situations, too.
posted by
Jemmie211
on August 19, 2005 at 12:06 PM
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Layla--
Oh, I didn't know Oregon had that reputation!! But in his case, he was in California so it seemed logical?
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 12:01 PM
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Silva--
I too know what the face of a murderer looks like, as my now-deceased brother was one. I think his face was beautiful also. But, if you read the post (?), that wasn't at all what this was about.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 12:00 PM
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Holy CRAP, Quirky!!!
Sounds like something that would-a happened to me!!! Why do weirdos ALWAYS come to Oregon!?!? ~LB~
posted by
Anony_Miss
on August 19, 2005 at 11:53 AM
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I know what one looks like
because my fiance is a murderer. I happen to think he's gorgeous.
posted by
Silva-the-Wessex-Wench
on August 19, 2005 at 11:20 AM
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MW--
Well, I can't remember nuttin' so you're better off than me, lol.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 11:04 AM
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Quirky
I remember strange stuff...now remembering where I put my keys...whole different story.
posted by
Bel_
on August 19, 2005 at 10:58 AM
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Military Wife--
Oh...yeah, now I do...
...but that is kind of amazing that you remembered this!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 10:57 AM
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MysticG--
thank goodness you had someone with you!! It's not funny really, but the way you've described it made me LOL.
Excellent moral!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 10:56 AM
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LOL!
Remember last month when I got the months mixed up? I tend to remember dates for some bizarre reason
posted by
Bel_
on August 19, 2005 at 10:45 AM
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Quirky-girl
moral of that story? God was watching over you:-) My husband and I met a few "strangers" like that, always together. I don't think we ever met a murderer but a few odd ones to be sure. An old lady with a tattooted head and body piercings everywhere taht we had over for dinner. One was a Professor at the University of San Diego who was a writter, and put together a disk of my poems and pictures and we went to see it...oh my GOd he was an old drunk who chased me around the house fell in my lap on the couch , knocked over the slide machine....it was a nightmare of sorts but hysterical at the same time, we went running down the steps like Cinderella at midnight with a half naked little hairy ape of a man chasing after us.
Moral is you can't judge a book by its cover and be very very careful, trust your instincts and your angels and pray alot!.
posted by
MysticGmekeepr
on August 19, 2005 at 10:39 AM
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MW--
No, I was wrong. I thought it was on my About Me page or Symphony's birthday blog, but it wasn't. I know I mentioned it in my post the other day, but I didn't specifically say Saturday...so come on, how'd you know??
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 10:38 AM
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MW--
So you aren't gonna tell me then...hmmm...oh wait, I think I just figured it out!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 10:35 AM
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Original--
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 10:34 AM
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jacenta--
thanks, your comment is right on...sometimes people get lulled into a false sense of safety upon meeting others who, in the brightness of daylight, seem so harmless.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 10:34 AM
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Quirky
I know everything!!! LOL!
posted by
Bel_
on August 19, 2005 at 10:25 AM
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Be careful who you eat with...
posted by
Original_Influence
on August 19, 2005 at 10:24 AM
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Cat--
Good advice...but...Oh, he seemed so "nice"--
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 10:21 AM
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Hello Quirkyalone....
"We are what we are in the dark." That is a saying I use all the time to monitor my own behavior. Even with little things. No one will know if I make the extra effort to pick up the paper someone else dropped or put the toilet paper on the spindle when someone else just didn't bother, thus it might hit the floor and get contaminated. It is difficult to know what someone is really like, what they are in the dark. With the BIG and little things in life. I guess, we just can't be too careful. It is important to really get to know someone first, before we decide to really trust them. Quirkyalone, your post is great. It only makes us realize that we must be selective with who we interact with and we need to be diligent in protecting ourselves.
posted by
jacentaOld
on August 19, 2005 at 10:21 AM
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The moral of the story.... don't give out personal information to anyone!!!
Going back into my hermit hole now.... LOL
posted by
-blackcat
on August 19, 2005 at 10:18 AM
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MiaElla--
Eeeeeeeew!
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 10:15 AM
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pooch--
lol--good morals...I'll keep those in mind when I'm shopping for cars and shovels.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 10:14 AM
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Military Wife--
Okay, just for you I've edited the post at the end...I shouldn't have left that part out I guess. Thanks for the b-day wishes--how did you know it was tomorrow though?
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 10:13 AM
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Are you TRYING to give me a heart attack??
So here I sit, finally slowing down jsut enough to kinda sorta read something and I decide to give yours the first read!
The moral of the story is you tell us he has been caught!!! Seriously my heart can't take too much more today...you are going ot kill me before I turn 40. By the way...just in case I am not around tommorow
HAPPY BIRTHDAY QUIRKY!!!!
posted by
Bel_
on August 19, 2005 at 10:05 AM
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queen--
well, that is a very good question--and I would say, there is almost NO way to tell.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 10:00 AM
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Quirkyalone
Moral...after you kill someone eat them and bury the car!
posted by
MiaElla
on August 19, 2005 at 9:59 AM
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Quirk
I think the moral of the story is either ..... don't drive a really nice car that someone like him would want, or.....look for mounds of dirt in his backyard.
posted by
Pooch116
on August 19, 2005 at 9:54 AM
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IF
There is a moral...I'd say don't date guys that seem real nice...cuz the BTK was a nice guy that 'everyone knew' too. But more than wondering about a moral.......I'd wonder the ten million dollar question...'How does one distinguish on first glance.....before the first date(and perhaps the last) a killer from a 'really nice guy?'
posted by
ALWAYSALOVER
on August 19, 2005 at 9:48 AM
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I know Katray--
I literally FREAKED OUT when I saw his face on TV.
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 9:38 AM
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Oh my Quirky, how creepy!
Never, ever divulge personal info. until you've known a person for awhile - how long; that's tricky because some people can you make feel so comfortable and relaxed in such a short period of time. Scary...
posted by
Katray2
on August 19, 2005 at 9:35 AM
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Justsouno--
He never came to my house, and they caught up with him in Oregon...I suppose I should have put that part in the post, eh??
posted by
Julia.
on August 19, 2005 at 9:32 AM
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Quirky OMG! I am too nervous now to guess. Tell us the rest. Ooh
posted by
Justi
on August 19, 2005 at 9:20 AM
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