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Well, Gee, Quirky...Did I Ever Suggest That Your Post Was About Me?
Clearly, some of your readers think it's about me so I just feel permitted to defend myself against comments like the following that appear in this specific blog: i'm not the least bit impressed with your credentials, because it's what's in a person's heart that determines what kind of a person he is. i was attacked from the get-go. oh, you call it logic. i thought logic was cool, detached, objective. isn't it? the objective is to find truth, is it not? you base all of your energy on a single sentence, and then blow up when i have a chance to respond. you are petulant, and highly immature. you're arrogant in the extreme. nobody wants to hear your rants, because of your abusive language, and complete denial. the fact that you follow me around and pick fights is testament that you are full of fear. you are a coward, sir. it is written all over you. i will never respond to you again, because it is a waste of time. Posted by avant-garde on August 23, 2005 at 2:10 PM (permalink) DM
posted by
Dennison..Mann
on August 24, 2005 at 10:27 AM
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"If you fight with a pig...
...you both get dirty. And the pig likes it!"
posted by
Ciel
on August 24, 2005 at 10:26 AM
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Quirky
I guess they're forgetting also that once they've posted a comment, it's kind of "engraved in stone" for all to see and judge, especially new bloggers who may be doing a little back-reading. Before I started posting, I spent a couple of weeks just reading here and it didn't take me long to figure out who attracted me and who didn't.
posted by
Lensman
on August 24, 2005 at 10:22 AM
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Quirky
I guess they're forgetting also that once they've posted a comment, it's kind of "engraved in stone" for all to see and judge, especially new bloggers who may be doing a little back-reading. Before I started posting, I spent a couple of weeks just reading here and it didn't take me long to figure out who attracted me and who didn't.
posted by
Lensman
on August 24, 2005 at 10:22 AM
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"A virtual world", indeed.
posted by
Hemlocker
on August 24, 2005 at 9:51 AM
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Quirky, quite a lot of action here:)
I have nothing against Dennison, he probably hasnt been on my site and me on his, but everyone seems to be worked up about this.If someone gets on your nerves, just ignore him or her, and be nice under all circumstances, it is after all, a virtual world here:)
posted by
Meringue
on August 24, 2005 at 7:10 AM
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Excellent post Quirky
I express my views on political issues, so I've experienced this several times here. It is educational though; if I run for an elected position someday, my skin should be well prepared, lol.
posted by
Katray2
on August 24, 2005 at 5:32 AM
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One of the worst kinds of bullying is not the out and out slanging matches but the insidious campaigns where dig after dig slowly chinks away at the armor. It is much more dangerous because it is relentless and hidden. And it is often perpetrated by people who are skilled at manipulating others to follow their way of thinking. Often the perpetrators are unaware that what they are doing is bullying. When it is subtle like that their behavor may never have been checked.
I have experienced this and I've noticed that it can take other people a while to catch on and that some even when they understand it, do not have the courage to speak up for fear of either losing favor or being ridiculed themselves
posted by
Azur
on August 23, 2005 at 10:49 PM
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Quirkyalone,
Good night Rocky from Whiskers. I will be putting my paw over my face now, then I will fall asleep.
posted by
jacentaOld
on August 23, 2005 at 9:37 PM
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quirky
I'm glad you did this post, but in a way, I almost wish you hadn't. I think "bully" is a rather simplistic way of labeling these types of people. It's clear that many of us here have strong opinions and are not timid about expressing them. One of my opinions has been that so-called "conservatives", at least the people who seem to wear that identity today, are less caring, more selfish ("individual", many of them call it), virtually clueless about or uninterested in the magnitude of suffering in the world, and always ready to savage anyone who does not share the wisdom of their beliefs. I've met a few people on Blogit whose beliefs and priorities differ decidedly from my own, yet they are not--or certainly don't intend to be or think they are--bullies. I've gotten a few sarcastic asides, but have yet to be verbally assaulted in the sorry ways you describe. I despair of ever changing the beliefs or opinions of those who seem so diametrically opposed to the values I cherish; yet I understand that we tend to be products of our times and, though we may think we are sophisticated as hell, we are as likely to be victimized by clever PR artists and propagandists as we believe our adversaries to be. I think knowledge is the best answer, but to many people, knowledge is merely that which supports their pre-conceived notions. As my wise but mood-disordered mother used to say, "This too shall pass." Hemlocker
posted by
Hemlocker
on August 23, 2005 at 9:29 PM
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Sandi--
Nah don't be sorry, that's very funny!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 23, 2005 at 9:19 PM
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Sorry Quirk, but your last post caused me to sing! LOL
Your so vain, you probly think this post is about you! LOL
posted by
Sandra_Harris
on August 23, 2005 at 9:05 PM
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DM--
Who said this post was about you?? I certainly never did.
posted by
Julia.
on August 23, 2005 at 8:19 PM
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In All Fairness To The Bully...
Here's the exchange that sparked this entire thing.
You tell me, who insulted whom first?
DM
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you are love. the fact that love is sought derives from the belief that we are separate from one another. that the desire for love is really a mask for self-hatred is obvious. by loving you, for instance, proves that your attacks are only on yourself.
Posted by
Hey, I Got Another Question For You...
"In trying to create love, man has found sorrow and hatred...Choose love once and discover what is real."
So, should humanity seek love or not? And how did man "try to create love?" What is love? And how did man go about trying to create it? And one last question, how many hits of LSD did you ingest over the past 24 hours? Be careful! That's dangerous stuff!
Okay, that was more than one question.
DM
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As any reasonable person can plainly read, I tried to keep the whole conversation focused on the logic of Vacant Gourd's post. Instead, he decided to initiate hostilities by incorrectly claiming that I attacked him. (I'd like to know exactly where I attacked him? I even cracked a joke or two along the way.) Later in the exchange Gourdy decided to label me (again, incorrectly) as being abusive. Does my above post sound abusive to you?
I've actually seen this pattern of behavior before: challenge their logic and they respond with ad hominem diversions rather than responding with an explanation of their flawed thinking.
DM
posted by
Dennison..Mann
on August 23, 2005 at 7:06 PM
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No matter where you go or what you do
there will always be a bully. I have dicovered that these people are usually suffering from low self esteem or looking for some sort of recognition.
posted by
StrickGold
on August 23, 2005 at 6:53 PM
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Bullies never get what they deserve...shame isn't it?
posted by
Original_Influence
on August 23, 2005 at 5:34 PM
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Drawing the line
You're right of course, all bullies are insecure. Part of the issue is that people often say or do something abusive without even realising that their behaviour is hurtful. People see something they don't like and kick off, only realising later that they were being arsey.
The mark of a real bully is that they don't engage their victims as people. On the sreets, a bully is someone who hits and runs. I suspect the same is true of bullying bloggers.
PS - Damn, this is addictive isn't it? I was meant to be in bed by now....
posted by
lostboy
on August 23, 2005 at 5:21 PM
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Quirky,
Whoa...I think I missed something...great post...people should be nice...
posted by
SincerityAnna
on August 23, 2005 at 5:15 PM
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Hope I Am not considered a cranky ass.
posted by
PhillysTales
on August 23, 2005 at 4:07 PM
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Quirky...
Bullies are insecure by definition. There is no other reason for their behavior than to lift themselves up, or attempt to at the expense of others. I realized this long ago and have since ignored them. That's another thing about bullies...they have no power or authority other than that which is given them by their victims. When they realize their jabs no longer bother you they will look for a different target. Besides...who cares what these people think anyway?
posted by
A_Norseman
on August 23, 2005 at 3:21 PM
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Quirky, Your title lends to a good tongue twister,
Belittling, Badgering Blogit Bullies. Bet you can't say it three times real fast without getting messed up.
posted by
TAPS.
on August 23, 2005 at 2:55 PM
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oh right - I get it after reading some of the comments...always the same
ass
posted by
_Symphony_
on August 23, 2005 at 2:52 PM
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OK! - why is it that I miss everything?
who is being an ass now?
posted by
_Symphony_
on August 23, 2005 at 2:50 PM
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Quirks, thanks for standing up and saying something. When one stands, others will stand with them. Until then, we just wait for someone to stand. Those that stand will always be pilloried by the bullies. They will also be faintly applauded by the bullies who don't know they're bullies. But they will be forever praised by a silent crescendo of nodding heads.
My thanks.
posted by
_dave_says_ack_
on August 23, 2005 at 2:41 PM
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I think its wonderful that DM can see his own reflection and accountability, admitting that he acts like a child. He's also admitted that he can't help himself. I always feel sorry for people who can't/won't control themselves. Arrogance can be a toxic sickness. Great post as I witness the grace of everyone who approached this blog with kindness. Sandi
posted by
Sandra_Harris
on August 23, 2005 at 2:28 PM
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why doesn't everyone
get together and file a formal complaint on this bedsore of a human being?
posted by
avant-garde
on August 23, 2005 at 2:21 PM
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True. Very True.
You hit the nail on the head here.
posted by
Jemmie211
on August 23, 2005 at 2:18 PM
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yes, DM, you are
i'm not the least bit impressed with your credentials, because it's what's in a person's heart that determines what kind of a person he is. i was attacked from the get-go. oh, you call it logic. i thought logic was cool, detached, objective. isn't it? the objective is to find truth, is it not? you base all of your energy on a single sentence, and then blow up when i have a chance to respond. you are petulant, and highly immature. you're arrogant in the extreme. nobody wants to hear your rants, because of your abusive language, and complete denial. the fact that you follow me around and pick fights is testament that you are full of fear. you are a coward, sir. it is written all over you. i will never respond to you again, because it is a waste of time.
posted by
avant-garde
on August 23, 2005 at 2:10 PM
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Hmmm
I'd say, on the strength of you post, DM, that it was an observation
posted by
Silva-the-Wessex-Wench
on August 23, 2005 at 1:38 PM
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Somehow...
calling me a child isn't an insult?
So, you couch your insults in a different set of words than I might. They're insults nonetheless.
Get over it. You're still full of shit and that's obvious. Oh, maybe I shouldn't use such language...Maybe I should veil my insults like you do? Okay, how's this? You post sciolistic meanderings of psuedo-philosophy and foist them upon your loyal disciples as though they were truth. You shrink from any sort of real responsibility when the discipline of philosophy demands your adherence to the science of thought. You premise your conclusions with faulty, incorrect, or blatantly unprovable information and then martyr yourself whenever anyone challenges your thesis. In short, you're full of shit.
Damn. I guess I just can't help myself. I'm such a child.
DM
posted by
Dennison..Mann
on August 23, 2005 at 1:22 PM
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Those people bore me.
So I don't read them or comment on them.
posted by
strat
on August 23, 2005 at 1:09 PM
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quirky
i took DM's words the other day and pondered them. was it me he was attacking? or, was it the image of me that threatened who he believed he was? when i realized that only my ego could get offended, it was easy to dismiss all of his petulant nonsense. it reminded me of a child throwing a temper tantrum, only when it's an adult i have to wonder if the child inside has ever healed.
posted by
avant-garde
on August 23, 2005 at 1:07 PM
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Oh that's goooooood!
posted by
NCwriter
on August 23, 2005 at 12:55 PM
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NC
My favourite bumper sticker is " So many pedestrians ... so little time!"
posted by
ariel70
on August 23, 2005 at 12:42 PM
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Quirky,
Well said! My favorite bumper sticker is "Mean People Suck." I have it but won't put it on any car because I'd be afraid to lose it if I ever sold the car. It hangs on the bulletin board in my office. I'm with you. They are sad...
posted by
NCwriter
on August 23, 2005 at 12:41 PM
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no...
my comment wasn't about you...it was about ppl who have been very offensive against me...but not on blogit...thanks God:)
posted by
Marshallengraved
on August 23, 2005 at 12:22 PM
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Quirky
Or perhaps it’s the clichéd “birds of a feather stick together.”.....throw a cat in the flock. That'll straighten em up
Tissi Blake 
posted by
TissiBlake
on August 23, 2005 at 12:10 PM
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Quirks... I've seen there's a new one lurking around...
The wet mops and the bullies should get together and have a party. LOL
posted by
-blackcat
on August 23, 2005 at 11:51 AM
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Quirkyalone
I try not to pay attention to bullies...as I had my lunch stolen everyday in grade school by one...
posted by
MiaElla
on August 23, 2005 at 11:45 AM
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Thanks for the heads up
Thanks for the heads up...I'm new to this environment, and luckily (I'm knocking on wood now) haven't had this experience. I can't believe anyone who is serious and has a deep passion for writing could be so shallow, but it seems lurking in every facet of life there are those dark souls. Luckily there seem to be plenty of kindred spirits that also work together as well, so may we outnumber the negative ones.
posted by
LifeByLisa
on August 23, 2005 at 11:07 AM
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Great post Quirk... gracefully said! Sandi
posted by
Sandra_Harris
on August 23, 2005 at 10:55 AM
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Quirky-girl
Good post. I stay clear of them if I can, cause I dont' really feel a need to open myself up to their condemnation and stone throwing and I certainly feel no need to do it to anyone else. I'm here to play fair and have fun not bully or be bullied on the blogit street playground, over opinions or beliefs. Everyone is entitled
posted by
MysticGmekeepr
on August 23, 2005 at 10:37 AM
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Isa--
WHAT!! You mean that goon I sent to hold the gun to your head, has run off already?
posted by
Julia.
on August 23, 2005 at 10:23 AM
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i don't like acting like a bully...
unless ppl start disrespecting me or what i stand for...i don't force anybody to like me or to like what i like...all i want is a little bit of respect and kindness...i mean..nobody forces ppl to read a blog they don't like lol
posted by
Marshallengraved
on August 23, 2005 at 10:19 AM
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Factor--
ROFLMAO!!!! Gads that was funny. Thank you so much for the HUGE laugh.
posted by
Julia.
on August 23, 2005 at 10:14 AM
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Ariala--
No of COURSE they don't--that's why I feel sorry for them.
posted by
Julia.
on August 23, 2005 at 10:13 AM
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BrightIrish--
I must have missed that or am suffering memory loss...at any rate, you seem self aware, and that's always a good sign.
posted by
Julia.
on August 23, 2005 at 10:12 AM
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Queen--
Popularity doesn't factor into whether you'll be bullied or not...maybe it's the "luck" of the draw, or maybe your personality or view will rub someone the wrong way and pow--they'll let you know!!
posted by
Julia.
on August 23, 2005 at 10:11 AM
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I really wanted a bunch of crabs doing the can-can, but of course there is no such emoticon... ah well...I should really learn how to make them myself...
posted by
FactorFiction
on August 23, 2005 at 10:10 AM
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Nickie--
But bullies typically don't listen to rational explanations.
posted by
Julia.
on August 23, 2005 at 10:09 AM
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Silva--
Yeah I agree--ignoring is a good strategy.
posted by
Julia.
on August 23, 2005 at 10:08 AM
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They've been here since the beginning...lol I'm sure they don't see
themselves in the same light.
posted by
Ariala
on August 23, 2005 at 10:08 AM
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poet--
but you KNOW some, don't ya??
posted by
Julia.
on August 23, 2005 at 10:07 AM
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My mom always said, "just be nice." It drove me nuts, but she was right.
posted by
poetjpb
on August 23, 2005 at 10:07 AM
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Quirkyalone....
As you may remember.. I jumped the gun over the week-end and reacted badly.. Although I feel some justifacation in beleiving as I do that it was not art.. I truly am ashamed of my public reaction. It is absolutly wrong to be verbally abusive of other bloggers.
posted by
BrightIrish
on August 23, 2005 at 10:04 AM
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Quirky
I guess I'm not popular enough in Blogit town to be bullied. I've never experienced such behavior and hope not too because I'm having a blast here.
posted by
ALWAYSALOVER
on August 23, 2005 at 10:03 AM
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Hear, hear, Quirky,
... I don't like bullies, either. Whether they are here on Blogit or anywhere else. But I'm the kind of person who'd tell them they are wrong, and why.
posted by
Nickie-Fleming
on August 23, 2005 at 10:00 AM
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we have a choice Quirky
we either bite back and play into their hands, or we ignore them and dont give them the benefit of our membership fee
posted by
Silva-the-Wessex-Wench
on August 23, 2005 at 9:53 AM
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cranky-ass, now that's funny..............I haven't heard that phrase before....
posted by
poetjpb
on August 23, 2005 at 9:46 AM
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