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Welcome, Blanche!
Thanks so much for reading. Looks like you need to do some homework, all of that has been addressed elsewhere. For starters, go look up Bubba's no-bids to Halliburton. Bye-bye to that theory. Then, take a look at all the other no-bid contracts to other contractors in the Gulf Coast and what the consequences would have been had the usual months-long procurement and competitive bid processes been followed in a time of national emergency.
blogflogger, thanks for confusing me with corbin, but this isn't his.
Corbin, articles of impeachement were indeed passed, but he resigned rather than go to trial. Here's a link to some discussion about impeachment. http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Impeachment. And no apology needed, your participation is always welcome.
posted by
WriterofLight
on January 17, 2006 at 6:31 PM
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Blogflogger, thank you!
I greatly appreciate your providing the context for the speech. The citation of Dr. King being wiretapped is timely, as it was a Democrat administration - under direction of then attorney general Robert F.Kennedy, brother of Senator Ted Kennedy of the unending pompous proclamaitons about this and other issues.
Scoop, thanks for pointing out another angle on the Sore Loser's idiocy. Nixon was surveilling political enemies, just like Bubba used the IRS to harass his own political enemies. Bush is using FISA against terror suspects overseas.
posted by
WriterofLight
on January 17, 2006 at 6:21 PM
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I Agree With You!!
In speech and communication classes, if evaluated, this appears dissonant. Nice post!
posted by
Dr_JPT
on January 17, 2006 at 10:13 AM
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Corbin I never said nor did Gore say
that Nixon was impeached
but said "It can be" an impeachable offense,".
posted by
scoop
on January 17, 2006 at 8:07 AM
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Are you surprised? Al Gore has never been known as the brightest bulb in the batch. He has always been an opportunist..but he is a nobody who see's himself as a somebody. He is a legend in his own mind.
posted by
Offy
on January 17, 2006 at 4:39 AM
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Corbin
Argh! I must be more tired than I thought I was. I stand corrected. You're exactly correct.
posted by
blogflogger
on January 16, 2006 at 9:41 PM
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I found it.....Here it is, from the Cornell Law site.....
The Impeachment Process in a Nutshell
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The House Judiciary Committee deliberates over whether to initiate an impeachment inquiry.
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The Judiciary Committee adopts a resolution seeking authority from the entire House of Representatives to conduct an inquiry. Before voting, the House debates and considers the resolution. Approval requires a majority vote.
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The Judiciary Committee conducts an impeachment inquiry, possibly through public hearings. At the conclusion of the inquiry, articles of impeachment are prepared. They must be approved by a majority of the Committee.
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The House of Representatives considers and debates the articles of impeachment. A majority vote of the entire House is required to pass each article. Once an article is approved, the President is, technically speaking, "impeached" -- that is subject to trial in the Senate.
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The Senate holds trial on the articles of impeachment approved by the House. The Senate sits as a jury while the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presides over the trial.
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At the conclusion of the trial, the Senate votes on whether to remove the President from office. A two-thirds vote by the Members present in the Senate is required for removal.
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If the President is removed, the Vice-President assumes the Presidency under the chain of succession established by Amendment XXV.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on January 16, 2006 at 9:12 PM
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Actually.......I believe that's not correct .....A House Committee issues the articles and the full house votes on impeachment....Then it goes to the Senate for trial with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding over the trial. Clinton was impeached...but he wasn't found guilty in trial. Only two Presidents have been impeached...Andrew Johnson and William Jefferson Clinton.....neither were found guilty by their respective Senates.
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on January 16, 2006 at 9:10 PM
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Corbin
The Judiciary Committee issued three articles of impeachment against Nixon. -- The first step is always an impeachment inquiry, if evidence is found the Senate issues Articles of Impeachment. It was at that poing that Nixon resigned, just prior to the Senate vote. If the majoriy of the Senate votes in favor of impeachment, the next step if the trial, then if found guilty, removal from office and sentencing.
posted by
blogflogger
on January 16, 2006 at 8:52 PM
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Everything you say there is true......
I was there at the time...I was in College Republicans with 3 people that were involved with testifying at the Watergate hearings.......I worked as a staffer (minor) on both of his campaigns. It was quite a ride....
But Scoop's comment....prompted mine as a point of reference.....millions of people in this country would answer that he was impeached if asked the question......"was he impeached?"
Writer......my apologies for abducting your post's comments.........it has been pulled way off topic and that's a shame...because you did a fine job in laying it out......
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on January 16, 2006 at 8:44 PM
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Corbin
Of thirty-five attempts at impeachment, only nine have come to trial. Because it cripples Congress with a lengthy trial, impeachment is infrequent. Many officials, seeing the writing on the wall, resign rather than face the ignominy of a public trial.
The most famous of these cases is of course that off President Richard Nixon, a Republican. After five men hired by Nixon's reelection committee were caught burglarizing Democratic party headquarters at the Watergate Complex on June 17, 1972, President Nixon's subsequent behavior—his cover-up of the burglary and refusal to turn over evidence—led the House Judiciary Committee to issue three articles of impeachment on July 30, 1974. The document also indicted Nixon for illegal wiretapping, misuse of the CIA, perjury, bribery, obstruction of justice, and other abuses of executive power. "In all of this," the Articles of Impeachment summarize, "Richard M. Nixon has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as president and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice, and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States." Impeachment appeared inevitable, and Nixon resigned on Aug. 9, 1974.
posted by
blogflogger
on January 16, 2006 at 8:20 PM
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Blogflogger, spunk, you say?
I've just tending my own house, living a quiet life, and letting the fireworks go on around me, having had my fill over the last few years. However, "it's all fun and games until someone puts an eye out", as the Roman gladiators used to say.
posted by
Blanche.
on January 16, 2006 at 8:19 PM
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Were there ever any official impeachment charges? He resigned in disgrace......a self-imposed punishment worse than any impeachment.........
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on January 16, 2006 at 8:17 PM
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Oh Blanche_DuBois
I haven't been here long, but this is the most spunk I've seen you exhibit. You go. What a funny place to find sanity: on a Corbin blog!
posted by
blogflogger
on January 16, 2006 at 8:16 PM
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Scoop, writer, et al,
I'd say,forget impeachmnet. The Repubs control both houses. After the mid-terms elections at the end of this year, if the Dems take control of either house, then it's time for inquiries and investigations into the legalities of surveillance without wanrrants, inquiries into Halliburton and their fast and loose handling of contractng of the reconstruction of Iraq, while troops lack the basic necessities like body armor, Vice Pres. Cheney's personal connection to Halliburton's no-bid contracts in New Orleans and the reconstruction threre. In due time.
posted by
Blanche.
on January 16, 2006 at 8:14 PM
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Corbin
Nixon DID receive a Presidential pardon, remember?
posted by
blogflogger
on January 16, 2006 at 8:11 PM
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Scoop......you are talking about impeachment charges........that never took place.....right?
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on January 16, 2006 at 8:03 PM
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Writer.....
It's never stopped him before......
As I commented elsewhere.....an important point is that Al seems to conveniently forgotten about the administration he was a part of.......were involved in the following:
Clinton Administration Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick: "(T)he Department Of Justice Believes, And The Case Law Supports, That The President Has Inherent Authority To Conduct Warrantless Physical Searches For Foreign Intelligence Purposes And That The President May, As Has Been Done, Delegate This Authority To The Attorney General." (Deputy Attorney General Jamie S. Gorelick, Permanent Select Committee On Intelligence, U.S. House Of Representatives, Testimony, 7/14/94)
In 1994, President Clinton Expanded The Use Of Warrantless Searches To Entirely Domestic Situations With No Foreign Intelligence Value Whatsoever. In A Radio Address Promoting A Crime- Fighting Bill, Mr. Clinton Discussed A New Policy To Conduct Warrantless Searches In Highly Violent Public Housing Projects." (Charles Hurt, "'Warrantless' Searches Not Unprecedented," The Washington Times, 12/22/05)
"One Of The Most Famous Examples Of Warrantless Searches In Recent Years Was The Investigation Of CIA Official Aldrich H. Ames, Who Ultimately Pleaded Guilty To Spying For The Former Soviet Union. That Case Was Largely Built Upon Secret Searches Of Ames' Home And Office In 1993, Conducted Without Federal Warrants." (Charles Hurt, "'Warrantless' Searches Not Unprecedented," The Washington Times, 12/22/05)
President Bill Clinton: "(T)he Attorney General Is Authorized To Approve Physical Searches, Without A Court Order, To Acquire Foreign Intelligence Information For Periods Of Up To One Year ..." (President Bill Clinton, Executive Order 12949, "Foreign Intelligence Physical Searches," 2/9/95)
This is amazingly similar to the LIBDems memory losses regarding their own statements on the beginning of the Iraq War.........
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on January 16, 2006 at 8:00 PM
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WriterofLight
Gore was invited to speak at this event and since it was sponsored by the American Constitution Society for Law and Policy, The Liberty Coalition, and moveon.org, their topic was agreed upon at the onset. It was not nor was it intended to be an MLK speech. It was a speech about our rights as U.S. citizens, which is exactly what Martin Luther King worked toward. While you have a right to your opinion, I tuned it, and was thrilled that he brought up a number of concerns I’ve had of late. “Gore, speaking at DAR Constitution Hall, said his concerns are especially important on the King holiday because the slain civil rights leader was among thousands of Americans whose private communications were intercepted by the U.S. government. King, as a foremost civil rights activist in the 1950s and '60s, had his telephone conversations wiretapped by the FBI, which kept a file on him and thousands of other civil rights and anti-Vietnam war activists.”
posted by
blogflogger
on January 16, 2006 at 7:30 PM
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Well remember Gore invented the internet, he probably knows a thing
or two even if he can't articulate either of them. LOL He is a prideful man who cares little about anything but Florida voter tags!!!!
posted by
Justi
on January 16, 2006 at 6:37 PM
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Well here goes
Asked by ABC News following his speech whether President Bush's domestic spying program constituted an impeachable offense, Gore said it might be and pointed to one of the three Articles of Impeachment that the House Judiciary Committee approved against President Nixon on July 27, 1974.
"That's a legal determination for the Congress to make," Gore told ABC News. "But Article II of the impeachment charges against President Nixon was warrantless wiretapping that the President said was 'necessary' for national security."
"It can be" an impeachable offense, he added
posted by
scoop
on January 16, 2006 at 6:24 PM
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