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Talion
Thank you for your input.....I appreciate your comments.

posted by Corbin_Dallas on February 6, 2006 at 3:00 AM | link to this | reply

corbin,

Should it be OK/NOT OK/ACCEPTABLE/NOT ACCEPTABLE/ or what?

Does it matter what anyone decides?  We don't live under a legally enforced book of social etiquette.  Whatever anyone thinks in any situation is correct for that situation.  You have to know people, you have to know society, and you have to do what you see fit.  SHOULD IT BE THIS WAY is about as meaningless and irrelevant as anything can get.  It is how it is.   jack

posted by Jack_Flash on February 5, 2006 at 10:50 PM | link to this | reply

Corbin_Dallas

I'm black and use the word all the time. I'm not defending it, just stating the fact. I view using the word the same as using any of those certain words, like the f-bomb. There's a time and a place for it, and more importantly, you have to know the people you're speaking to. I won't use the word around a stranger simply because he's black and rarely will I utter it in a racially mixed crowd.  

I know four white guys off the top of my head who share a close enough relationship with me to use the word and they do. However, while they can use the word in my presence, they have enough sense to know they can't speak like that with every black guy. Rap music has made the word "mainstream." Strangely, I've heard the word used by white guys refering to other white guys. Imagine that.  

In this instance, the student was wrong, regardless of races, because it's inappropriate to talk to a teacher as a peer. If the student isn't punished, then the teacher shoudn't as well.    

posted by Talion on February 5, 2006 at 10:24 PM | link to this | reply

I'm with you on this one and there is an over sensitivity to some issues.

Why can't there be an open discussion with the class to determine the limits for that class?

That means at the begining of the year everyone discusses how they feel about such issues and then aggrees to abide to the limits by mutual consent to respect each other. Perhaps even punishments for transgressions can be discussed. Thereby everyone can see the hurt and pain beforehand and avoid it out of respect. Or at least aspire to it.  

posted by Bud-Oracle on February 5, 2006 at 5:49 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks for all your comments, guys.  

I was genuinely interesting in hearing others take on this.......I still have trouble understanding how some can say something and it's considered OK, while others are forbidden to utter the word without recrimination.

posted by Corbin_Dallas on February 5, 2006 at 3:30 PM | link to this | reply

You did pose a difficult but nice question. However, I  think, the student who first used the N word should have been purnished and not the teacher. Perhaps the teacher would have been called privately asked not to repeat the N word. Purnishing the teacher  waters down the authority of teachers. That is what I think.

posted by Flame-thrower on February 5, 2006 at 3:04 PM | link to this | reply

I Think in the Public Setting it Should Not Be Used

As an educator it should not be used in the school by anyone, student or staff.  I feel the student should have received a 10 day suspension as well, since such measures are taken against the teacher.  In one's private life, we have freedoms to say words as we please, responsibly and with common sense.

Should the teacher face termination, no.  Illegal or immoral acts warrant termination, along with gross insubordination.  I do not see where either of these can be proven in this case.  Now in some states if the teacher has not met the probationary requirements, can be released without a reason.

posted by Dr_JPT on February 5, 2006 at 10:19 AM | link to this | reply

This is a good question Corbin
but I don't know if any of the white readers/writers here can answer this truthfully and I am serious when I say that. I hear the word used in rap songs by black artists, I hear kids use it on the street and I have heard people like Bill Cosby condemn it . Sensitivity with the use of words in music, cartoons, or just everyday life etc, it is getting to be the topic of the week.

posted by scoop on February 5, 2006 at 9:59 AM | link to this | reply

good question...i dunno

posted by Ariala on February 5, 2006 at 6:39 AM | link to this | reply