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Fourcats, you have be named as the Star commenter
for this post after various endorsements. Ok, so now I'll go write
posted by
Azur
on June 13, 2006 at 11:48 AM
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Majroj, Saul_Relative, Symphony, Spitfire70,straightforward, wiley.coyote
Yes Saul , good point about finding a voice. I believe that accounts for many people but some go about it in the loud, ears shut mode. Thanks
thanks. Thinking of you and all that is going on for yo. Hear and be heard yes Straightforward.
Wiley, THANK YOU, I love this comment.
Thanks Blanche01
Thanks Blackcat30
SOPHISTIE, people often miss the connection that you point out
posted by
Azur
on June 13, 2006 at 11:47 AM
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Taps, BlackPearl1, Avant-garde, whacky, littlemspickles, bel_1965, fourcats
Taps, I think when you are thinking of health issues you have a different sense of priorities and whipping up arguments seems a really inefficient use of energy.
Blackpearl1, blogit-specific is never that interesting.
Short, thought-provoking posts, are more difficult than they appear. They don't arrive every day. One day your charmless group member will become human I believe. Unfortunately for her she will have to go through one of life's big issues to discover that we do the best we can. Glad i gave you a space to let that out ;-)
Avante-Garde WHAT WAS THAT YOU WERE SAYING? ;-)
Littlemspickles, I am getting there thanks. Glad to have got away with saying something in a few words.
Whacky, thanks)
Majroj, that is always the challenge particularly when someone is SHOUTING at us.
posted by
Azur
on June 13, 2006 at 11:38 AM
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Azur, it is especially bothersome to one one the mend and not back to full strength. When one is not quite up to par, everything is louder, harsher, more sarcastic, etc. But, its noticible to me also and I'm well (I think).
posted by
TAPS.
on June 11, 2006 at 6:56 PM
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Okay, Azur,
I guess that comment below wasn't
Blogit-specific, but I think I know what you mean... Sorry to go off on a tangent there. :)
posted by
BlackPearl1
on June 11, 2006 at 6:48 PM
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Azur,
You have a talent for short, thought-provoking posts, I believe. And the situation you mention here, I find that I have this experience often. I try not to be so much of a talker that I don't listen. I had a recent experience with one of my online classmates just like this. I think she just felt like whining and fussing. When the others of us in the group chat tried to give her the floor, (I actually asked, "What are your thoughts?"), she came back with, "About what?" and "Oh, nevermind. Forget it." This, from a person who hadn't been to any of the group chats until the night before the assignment was due, and then she sent an email to the entire group, courtesy copied our instructor, saying how disappointed she was that only one person commented on her post to the discussion board, and that she'd met all the agreed-upon deadlines, even though she had a busy life, noticing that some people in the group hadn't posted their inputs, etc. She actually cc'd the professor! Luckily, we all still got an A on the group project, but I don't look forward to ever having to work with that person in a group again. It bothered me quite a bit, as you can tell.
It's so annoying and frustrating when I experience other people doing that kind of stuff to me. I hope I'm not often guilty of doing it to others. I hope that I would never cc the professor in a tacky, so-called CMA attempt such as that.
posted by
BlackPearl1
on June 11, 2006 at 6:46 PM
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Azur
You are so right. The ones who yell the loudest are usually the deafest.
posted by
avant-garde
on June 11, 2006 at 5:52 PM
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Yes!
posted by
Whacky
on June 11, 2006 at 5:25 PM
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hi azur - hope that your recovery is going well
your post was short but to the point and I think you've given us all some food for thought....
posted by
littlemspickles
on June 11, 2006 at 2:19 PM
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Very nice point
I grew up in a family that was LOUD yet nobody heard anyone.
posted by
bel_1965
on June 11, 2006 at 8:22 AM
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fourcats has the idea.
We each have the tools to address people who bug us personally.
Trick is, what if we were on the receiving end?
posted by
majroj
on June 11, 2006 at 7:18 AM
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It seems, Azur, that you have a few good people not only reading but
hearing you loud and clear. Fourcats' comment was dead on: we are all the sum of our individual experiences and our perspectives reflect each individual equation. Some people have grown to peruse, assess, and be fair to others and with themselves. Others have grown to discount and deny others and elevate themselves. And then there are those, like myself, who are just trying to find a voice.
posted by
saul_relative
on June 11, 2006 at 7:17 AM
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I Hear Ya!
posted by
_Symphony_
on June 11, 2006 at 7:02 AM
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Azur, great post. I hear you and I'm listening, too.
posted by
SpitFire70
on June 11, 2006 at 2:51 AM
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Hear and be heard should be our practice, I agree.
posted by
Straightforward
on June 11, 2006 at 2:08 AM
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Azur
It,s as if you rummaged around in my thoughts and picked this one out and blogged it.
Yes, I really hear you. Fourcats responed well, and I thank you both. 
posted by
WileyJohn
on June 10, 2006 at 7:52 PM
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Azur,
Selective perception is key. I am listening, as well.
posted by
Blanche.
on June 10, 2006 at 6:45 PM
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I don't think I could say it better than fourcats here...
but if you must know, I'm usually listening.
posted by
-blackcat
on June 10, 2006 at 6:08 PM
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sophistie, sometimes those elements almost overwhelm
posted by
Azur
on June 10, 2006 at 6:05 PM
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the trick, my friend, is to ignore the posts you don't care for and reward
the ones you like with your attention. blogit is absolutely no different from everyday life because that's what it is, everyday life. people with stories, people with opinions, people with one-sided views shaped from the lives they've led.
we don't like everybody we meet in real life either. so what. nobody can "make" you mad, only you can allow yourself to react to something one way or another, no one else. if someone's words push a button, turn the page, find something you like, there's plenty of everything here for everyone. and if you think something of worth is missing, write it yourself! we bloggers are always on the search for a thought-provoking writer.
posted by
fourcats
on June 10, 2006 at 5:56 PM
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That is a Very Good Question
They very ones who do not listen demand to be heard. I see that often!! Also, they lack respect of others and are appalled when they do not get the respect they demand!! Nice post!
posted by
Dr_JPT
on June 10, 2006 at 5:46 PM
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Clearly they don't
posted by
Azur
on June 10, 2006 at 5:34 PM
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