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Marie-Claire, thanks for the comment

- some of the points it makes remind me of that old chestnut about the kettle calling the pot black, or there again "it takes one to know one" (recalling name-calling when kids..). Using commonsense, basically I suppose, and trying to do the right thing yourself.

posted by mneme on October 28, 2006 at 8:07 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks MaggieMae,

I do always enjoy my visits - nice to see you here again too.

posted by mneme on October 28, 2006 at 8:04 PM | link to this | reply

mneme, I hope you had yourself a nice sleep. You sounded pretty wiped out.

I want to thank you for consistently visiting my joke blog. I really do appreciate it and more than that, it appears you enjoy your visit. Thanks a bunch!

posted by MaggieMae on October 28, 2006 at 4:21 PM | link to this | reply

Mneme,

In a nutshell, you know you are projecting if you are being unreasonable. How do you know where you are being unreasonable? When your reaction is disproportionate to the actual event, like a two year old throwing a tantrum because someone jumped the queue in front of you at the supermarket for example. The stronger the feeling towards something seemingly trivial to most is a sure indicator of projection. Projection is not based on reality, it is you who put an interpretation to a fact, for example, friend is late for lunch. Interpretations could be, she got caught up in traffic, or late as usual, i hate inconsiderate people, projection of your own inconsiderate behaviour maybe, if you catch yourself doing the same thing. You have to look inwards and examine your own actions, and if you catch yourself doing the same as what you accuse the person of being or doing then you are guilty, otherwise you are not projecting. It takes a bit of introspection I guess.
Some people take it too far and say that you are projecting in order to defend themselves and not take responsibility for their actions when they feel they are being criticised.
I don't know much about Jung, all I remember is this thing about collective consciousness which I thought was really interesting at the time. That is about all I remember... I have a book in French on dreams at home by Freud, should look at it again.
Good luck with your studies it sounds very interesting but hard work, I am quite happy to thrash around ideas with you, not that I know much anyway but if it helps you think or get you more confused probably, I enjoy the exchange of ideas.

posted by marieclaire66 on October 28, 2006 at 3:21 PM | link to this | reply

collective commentary...!

thank you for the helpful comments.. some more ideas for me/us to think about perhaps...

Star4you and johnmcnab, I'm awake again and I'll read later, the clocks went forward which means we're suddenly all up late...

Ypunday, thanks for the photos..! and it's so true that you do have to look beyond the surface for the essence.. I'll think about that some more

Taps, I think 'nice' too - and you do have to look for the good. I've been lucky, I've always had good people, or sometimes one good friend, around me when I needed them. Some people are truly 'angels in disguise.'

Marie-Claire, I had no idea you were so familiar with Jung:) yes, good and bad exist in us all..I wonder how do you know when you know yourself well enough to know you aren't projecting? that's my next thought to puzzle over.

posted by mneme on October 28, 2006 at 2:06 PM | link to this | reply

Mneme, good night.

Interesting question. since there is good and bad in all of us, we are likely to project a bit. It is ok to criticize as long as we clear the log from our own eyes, but none of us have 20/20 vision do we? My point is, sometimes we project, sometimes we reject rightly or wrongly. You have to know yourself well to be able to tell the difference between projection and real perception. Unresolved issues surface as intolerance for some traits we reject in ourselves that we tend to see in others. We don't necessarily project all the time. We all have blind spots, on other occasions we can be spot on and right about what we see and justified in our judgment. I like Jung, with his idea of collective unconscious, Freud depresses me but I like what he had to say about dreams... He was just an inhibited so and so as far as I am concerned. Philosophy was my favourite subject at school, that is when I studied those people at high school a very long time ago.

posted by marieclaire66 on October 28, 2006 at 2:55 AM | link to this | reply

mneme, I would say nice. I believe there is good in everyone if you look long enough for it. (Well, maybe not everyone but pert near)

posted by TAPS. on October 27, 2006 at 9:45 PM | link to this | reply

goodnight

posted by star4sky5 on October 27, 2006 at 9:04 PM | link to this | reply

Sleep tight and don't let the bugs bite.

posted by johnmacnab on October 27, 2006 at 7:56 PM | link to this | reply

the palms I promised--not my empty palms of course--

Ok, lets have both--Palms and palms. Shalom indeed

posted by ILLUMINATI8 on October 27, 2006 at 5:28 PM | link to this | reply

I have a great pic--posted on my blog--'afraid it's too big a gift here. A

smaller one will not hog all your space (Thanks for the almost - haiku comment a little bit earlier this evening.)

theme is still Willow (at least in my mind).

ABOUT THE GREAT QUESTION, IF SOMEBODY SAYS THEY LIKE EVERYONE, DOES IT MEAN THEY ARE THEMSELVES TOO-GOODY-TWO-SHOES... speaking for myself, my efforts in "saying every human is good" is not what I see, but what I know, or accept as human essence. So it's a reminder to me to look beyond surface ...Shalom

posted by ILLUMINATI8 on October 27, 2006 at 4:30 PM | link to this | reply

hi star4you

you sound okay to me