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If the body is so perfect what about its Creator?

posted by adventurer02 on October 6, 2015 at 5:54 PM | link to this | reply

does each cell have democratic voice

this might be closer to true than you think?

Muscle memory means that what is stored in our cells can have precedent over what we think we think?

Right?

Jo

posted by brisbane_artist on November 4, 2006 at 1:50 AM | link to this | reply

Thanks to all for their kind comments.
I wonder where dave's poem is. I'll have to do my own first. Yes, MC, I do try to rationalise to a certain extent, but i also acknowledge the mystery of it all. I must be looking for God in a way, because my mind is still open. But there needs to be some kind of manifestation. Remember, my jury is still out on whether there is a question, let alone an answer. But maybe there is. I'll keep waiting and looking. Now, on to the next one.

posted by Antonionioni on November 3, 2006 at 10:35 AM | link to this | reply

I hope love is easier to find than your golden pin, but true love is the ultimate golden pin... nowhere to be found perhaps. what am i saying...I keep thinking about the many question you raised here...Only you can answer them, no amount of rationalizing will make an iota of difference and you know that but you keep doing it none the less. You look for the golden pin in the wrong places. Ask God not me not us not them, just ask God. If you humand could clone or even created a perfect human being they could only create a functioning body, who would breathe life into that body? What would be missing do you think? You know the answer,
God breathes life into us, our own spirit what makes us unique is beyond our physical cells. We renew our body cells completely about every seven years, and yet we retain our identity, who put that blue print there. Don't tell it is DNA, it does not make us who we are as a person, it determines our physical make up no more. So where does the rest come from? You are looking for answers outside of yourself, only you can find the answers within, you said so yourself so keep looking...

posted by marieclaire66 on November 3, 2006 at 12:02 AM | link to this | reply

I'm still trying to figure out how you come up with one of these every day.
It's all I can do to pen a poem a week.  But then, I'm notapoet.

posted by notapoet on November 2, 2006 at 10:57 PM | link to this | reply

..ys, life is a puzzle... the 'why,' of it all....

posted by MasonGarrett on November 2, 2006 at 8:16 PM | link to this | reply

man that was a good poem every line well said
ill be re reeding that one a couple times over

posted by sneakermzp on November 2, 2006 at 5:41 PM | link to this | reply

I don't know where that 'u' came from.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on November 2, 2006 at 5:09 PM | link to this | reply

MC, uit's a good job he's gone to bo-bos.
 Or maybe he's cancelling his subscription as we squeak.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on November 2, 2006 at 5:09 PM | link to this | reply

.Dave Tony will never recover from your sornets...
I don't think he'll get much sleep after what you wrote... I saw it, it is not pretty, it is pretty silly but well crafted piece of nonsense.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 5:00 PM | link to this | reply

Tony, I wrote you a sonnet, whilst my head was not on it.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on November 2, 2006 at 4:46 PM | link to this | reply

I may be sozzled, but I've just written a masterpiece.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on November 2, 2006 at 4:44 PM | link to this | reply

Oh no, you've dropped off now.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on November 2, 2006 at 4:43 PM | link to this | reply

I don't know whether you can find it, but it's dedicated to you, my dear.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on November 2, 2006 at 4:43 PM | link to this | reply

No Tone, I was composing. Hoho.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on November 2, 2006 at 4:42 PM | link to this | reply

I'm off to bed now myself. Good night!

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 4:42 PM | link to this | reply

Well yes - me and Dave should go first. but I think he's dozed off.
He's sozzled.

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 4:39 PM | link to this | reply

Yes - it would be fun.
And we'd be allowed to post it on both sites on the same evening. Double the exposure.

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 4:38 PM | link to this | reply

although I was expecting first of all to see a duet with you and dave.

posted by mneme on November 2, 2006 at 4:37 PM | link to this | reply

Tony, it could be fun couldn't it
a bit like the old game of consequences... I've a feeling you might get a few..! 

posted by mneme on November 2, 2006 at 4:36 PM | link to this | reply

Yes, Mneme.
It would be nice to collaborate with anyone who's up for it.

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 4:33 PM | link to this | reply

I was half-pissed when i wrote it!!

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 4:32 PM | link to this | reply

Dave, he's a clever boy
and the joint sonnet writing sounds like a good one - can't wait to see the results.
There will be neurotransmitters lighting up everywhere.

posted by mneme on November 2, 2006 at 4:32 PM | link to this | reply

Bloody hell Tony, you don't half do it.
I'm pissed and I still love it.

posted by _dave_says_ack_ on November 2, 2006 at 4:29 PM | link to this | reply

Blanche...
I hope this disagreement gets resolved soon. I am sure it will. good luck.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 3:56 PM | link to this | reply

Mneme, I am expecting a visitor any minute to pick up something.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 3:55 PM | link to this | reply

MC, no I'm still here but have work to do
when I'm not dozing off during the day, that is.

posted by mneme on November 2, 2006 at 3:44 PM | link to this | reply

Oh-oh, Blanche
I never take too much notice of astrology, but Mercury going retrograde (28/10 to 5/12) seems to be having its effect, and I don't mean to be flippant.  For you to say it's not good with M is so unusual that I really hope it's just something passing.

posted by mneme on November 2, 2006 at 3:43 PM | link to this | reply

Hi Blanche
Sorry to hear that. It's so common when you're in a relationship, isn't it? Different people with different views. We need to find unrelated twins of the opposite sex!

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 3:38 PM | link to this | reply

Hi MC, Tony, and Mneme, I just popped in for a minute, I'm out and about
and don't have much time on this internet cafe machine. more later. I had to go out for a walk, M and I had an argument. It's not good.

posted by Blanche. on November 2, 2006 at 3:33 PM | link to this | reply

Mneme, good to hear you are better.
You may have left our blogit shores and drifted some place else by now. No matter.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 3:32 PM | link to this | reply

Tony,
you have a nice blokey way of putting it. My ego is running on four cylinders for now, thanks to you and many other kind souls.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 3:30 PM | link to this | reply

Marie-Claire, better today thanks.
Just tiptoed into your blog space, Tony.  Gossip central..!

posted by mneme on November 2, 2006 at 3:00 PM | link to this | reply

Hi Mneme

You arrive just as i'm about to eat - but I'll try to keep up! Yes, the golden pin is always there, in the times of greatest difficulty. In easy times, the whole haystack can seem golden.

MC - The ego is like the engine of a car. We need it to be working well to give us thrust and power. We need to nurture it, but not to let it cause us to frighten others with its roar!

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 2:57 PM | link to this | reply

Mneme, you missed the best bits...
how are you anyway?

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 2:48 PM | link to this | reply

Tonyzonit,
another wonderful thought-capsule. :) I like the idea of the golden pin, just like the pot of gold and the silver lining.. but then, I'm a dreamer. Lively here last night wasn't it.. I'll have to adjust my schedule.

posted by mneme on November 2, 2006 at 2:37 PM | link to this | reply

thanks Tony,
we encourage one another, which is a good thing. Having a strong belief in one's ability is good, but don't build your ego on it.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 2:36 PM | link to this | reply

That's exactly it, MC.
If you control your ego, which is a rational thing to do, at the same time you suppress it. Self-consciousness is wise, but at the same time it is a weakening agent. Keep your confidence alive. It will work wonders.

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 2:01 PM | link to this | reply

I need to, too. But i'll wait a little longer... See you!

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 1:59 PM | link to this | reply

enjoy, and refresh yourself see you again.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:59 PM | link to this | reply

dunno Troosh.
I think I am great and stupid at the same time...too afraid to be good, or admit it, too afaid to be conceited. ego is a strange thing.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:58 PM | link to this | reply

Troosha needs to hop in the shower - see you both tomorrow, I'm sure
 

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:58 PM | link to this | reply

If you so comfortably draw those conclusions, Marieclaire
Why are you not more confident in your work (or at least a sense some bashfulness or self bashing - either/or)

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:54 PM | link to this | reply

thanks Troosha, I will wizz over there now...
leave my ramblings for another day.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:53 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:52 PM | link to this | reply

science is art and art is science...
I remember this essay I wrote for my baccalauréat, I got 17 out of 20 dealing with that topic... just boasting a little. thoughts may be random but the rational part of our brain can give them shape and meaning. there is freedom of expression in random thoughts but they have to be reined in. We oversee our thoughts process, thoughts are the raw ingredients, but we follow guidelines and step back to get a fresh perspective on things. The most amazing discoveries were often made on a hunch first... a mere random thought that was followed through and set out to be proven... where did that inspiration come from? thoughts are gifts, a curse or a blessing...we are the thinkers, we are more than our thoughts, we are the content but we are also the container, the vessel the vehicule of our thoughts on that crazy highway.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:52 PM | link to this | reply

Hi Mike - cheers mate. Troosh, I'll whizz over there forthwith...

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 1:51 PM | link to this | reply

Great wondering Sonet Tony
Wit and humour wrapped up in how and why, I enjoyed your muse in mood friend. Mike

posted by lionladroar on November 2, 2006 at 1:49 PM | link to this | reply

Can I ask you a favour? And MC if she's still here....
a dear friend of mind just posted her first poem.... I don't think she's written poetry before but has been reading mind (following my dream, so to speak).  Anyway if you were to pop around and read hers I think she'd be encouraged:

Kiss of Autumn

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:48 PM | link to this | reply

That's because thoughts are random...

Art is also at best a random process, reflecting how we actually think ... randomly. If we get too analytical, it becomes like an academic thesis - which is NOT entertainment. Art is entertainment, not science...

MC - You better put a peg on your nose!

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 1:44 PM | link to this | reply

You have strong Faith, Marieclaire (not that I don't)
but you can sense it in all your words - be it your poems or your comments.

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:42 PM | link to this | reply

my thought....
they usually pop out of the blue (often in the middle of the night) so I try to keep a pen & paper at my bedside to jot the jolts down.  Sometimes it's merely a single line but it inspires my poem for the following morning.  Thoughts are weird

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:41 PM | link to this | reply

oooh what a sight!
I can smell them from here..

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:40 PM | link to this | reply

the creative process is a wonderful mystery and that is part of the
attraction. the brain computes information all the time and spits it out in a totally unexpected form that we call inspiration but the ultimate inspiration comes from God, He is the thinker behind all this, the creator after all.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:39 PM | link to this | reply

And I should back away from the computer screen
it's eating my brain

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:39 PM | link to this | reply

Ooh ooh, you're right, MC.
Mind you, I don't scratch my head like Troosha, I scratch my armpits.

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 1:38 PM | link to this | reply

you make me laugh

posted by star4sky5 on November 2, 2006 at 1:38 PM | link to this | reply

Ok tony I'll leave to it, and go ferret some place else.
my "real" fridge I am hungry so bye...

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:37 PM | link to this | reply

That's exactly right!
I usually haven't a clue, even up to the last few seconds. Then I just start, like some sort of random ideas machine. I'm lucky that words flow easily. Not that I'm boasting. It's taken me a long time to decide on a form that I can work with. i'd really like to write a novel - but if IU'm honest, I don't think I ever will be able to do it! How about you?

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 1:37 PM | link to this | reply

Tony stop your monkey business, it does not "suit" you.
Homo sapiens... one minute monkey next, I know we come down the tree of evolution, but I dont know which way we are going  anymore,

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:36 PM | link to this | reply

I'm sometimes scratch my head (no animal anology there) and
wonder where the heck you come up with your material!  I guess it's that thought question you yourself posed today.

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:34 PM | link to this | reply

It's nice having someone cleaning out my cage for free, though.
Us zoo-dwellers don't have to pay for cleaners. It's a great life. Cheaper than most places. they don't charge you rent. I recommend it!

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 1:32 PM | link to this | reply

Good to see you made it out of the zoo that consumed you for 2 days tho

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:27 PM | link to this | reply

OK, I'm here again.
This is virtually knackering. Yes, Troosh, I slept till 8.30am after MC ordered me to bed last nite!!

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 1:26 PM | link to this | reply

Here here Tony sit down, relax
You know we love you...big boy.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:25 PM | link to this | reply

So tell me, Tony.... have you slept yet?
Seems to be this has been your demise of late

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:25 PM | link to this | reply

Uurrgh
Ow, that hurt! Be more gentle - it's like being stampeded by a crowd of demented wildebeest!

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 1:23 PM | link to this | reply

The sad thing is.... he actually thinks there's a pin!

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:22 PM | link to this | reply

I go get him Trooosh
Pin him back by the collar.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:21 PM | link to this | reply

ha ha Poor Tony z not on it...
Here is your pin! Happy now.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:21 PM | link to this | reply

Get a grip Tony. You get a couple of visitors and you take off ?

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:20 PM | link to this | reply

Eek.
I'm here again. I'm always out of sync with everyone else. Please wait for me to ketchup!

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 1:18 PM | link to this | reply

Where's Tony? Looking for the pin? Doesn't he know he's a host?

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:16 PM | link to this | reply

Troosha love your formula...
but Have one or two ingredients missing and they are not lying on my messy desk, or Tony's for that matter. fun though and true....=may be.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:11 PM | link to this | reply

That was very clever, Marieclaire!

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:10 PM | link to this | reply

the flying pen they call me!
but read slowly, a few gold nuggets in there. You pack in so many questions in one poem, it takes my breath away and my pen coulc barely keep up with my thoughts! I thought we had discussed this before, the answer are my friend, is blowin' in the wind...Dylan style. thoughts are put into our head, we can discard them at will or dwell on them, where they come from? Where does the wind come from? the East the West, it is just there, can you see it? NO Can you feel it YES. so your thoughts are like that, God is like that, a mighty hurricane that will blow your mind away. listen to your heart, not just your head...add a new dimension to your life...I know you are but still, there is plenty more to discover beneath beyond the mind.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 1:09 PM | link to this | reply

Tony
fear + joy + hope + spouse + a dash of time = thought.
No glasses required the golden pin is probably on that messy desk of yours.

posted by Troosha on November 2, 2006 at 1:09 PM | link to this | reply

and I'm off again, ciao for a few min. Tony, keep the coffee on.

posted by Blanche. on November 2, 2006 at 12:52 PM | link to this | reply

Hey you two...
I forgot to see if you had popped in! Just moseying around the block, you know, going in a few open doors, leaving my calling card. MC, you are like literary lightning! Faster than a flying ferret!

posted by Antonionioni on November 2, 2006 at 12:52 PM | link to this | reply

I followed the flow of it, and yes, today I'm probably moving a little
fast for my own good. I need to go out, before M gets back. I'll be back in a few minutes.

posted by Blanche. on November 2, 2006 at 12:50 PM | link to this | reply

blanche you are a very fast reader!
it is my two cents worth, literally ha ha. 2 cents a page???

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 12:47 PM | link to this | reply

Damn, you're good, MarieClaire, that's amazing

posted by Blanche. on November 2, 2006 at 12:45 PM | link to this | reply

Here Tony, I found it!
Your golden pin
under the bed
or was it inside
your head
pinned in a dream
its golden head
gleaming in the sun
a golden smile
a golden thread
you follow on
leading the way
to enlightnment
precious filament
fending off
spiritual lament
the golden pin
the godly pin
inside your head
spirit is not dead
it leads ahead
when head cannot go
let it go let it go
and just follow
the spiritual thread
inside your heart
and guard your soul
pin your hopes on God
He is the thread
He is the Gold
He is the love
He is the hope
no gold can give
no thought can conceive
the breadth of its love
its scope its hope
the thread of life
the breath of God
imbued in us
we are the gold
instilled by God
the golden pin
a mere glimpse
a mere twinkle
eternal gold
eternal God
shine upon us.

posted by marieclaire66 on November 2, 2006 at 12:44 PM | link to this | reply

Have you tried looking in a haystack, Tonyzonit?

posted by Blanche. on November 2, 2006 at 12:31 PM | link to this | reply