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Gome

Let's face it!  There just could be more of "the Real God" in the concepts of Secular Humanism than there is of "Godlessness!" 

Gerald

posted by GEPRUITT on November 22, 2006 at 1:32 AM | link to this | reply

Gome,
Actually, my family members were not the Christians who were zealous about religion.  The drunk stepmother was the new influence when the getting into craziness Christians became a part of my social circle and influences.  I lived in my dad's house for a while, and the stepmother was the new stranger.  The Christians who became destructive at that time were all of Baptist origin, including her.

posted by Jenasis on November 21, 2006 at 7:58 AM | link to this | reply

SoloWriter - that's tragic
I cannot say that religion and over zealous family members has caused any real tragedy in my life but they sure have been a damn nuisance over the years.

posted by gomedome on November 21, 2006 at 7:52 AM | link to this | reply

Religion

When I was in the first years of my twenties, my dad married a strange woman who snatched him out of the hospital recovering from a heart attack and a divorce.  Her speech was slurred, and I had a very bad feeling about what was happening, but I was too young to have wisdom and speak up against the wedding.

Five years later, he was dead, and the funeral was held in the Baptist Church. By that time, the Christians had become insane fanatics, the stepmother had shown her drunk side, and I was abused in ways far worse than Cinderella when she got the time away from my dad's knowledge and protection.

Therefore, I can only say that religion has become something in my life that stemmed from the Baptist Church, remained the source of family tragedies, life-long problems, and the many and various disagreements in belief amongst us...

I say, reduce it all to a famous book again.  Bob has admitted he is the tomato, and mine are home grown.

posted by Jenasis on November 21, 2006 at 6:22 AM | link to this | reply

Odysseus - The ruins at Chichen Itza actually
 . . and yes I did spend a day there.

posted by gomedome on November 20, 2006 at 8:45 PM | link to this | reply

gomedome
Cancun is very beautiful. Perhaps you visited the Mayan ruins at Tulum, while you were there? I can see you really getting worked up over the Mayan public practice of human sacrifice.

posted by telemachus on November 20, 2006 at 5:54 PM | link to this | reply

franciscan - you are always good for a laugh
No not you . . you would never follow blindly. You analyze everything for its validity and merit . . . ha ha ha. Referring to a sound set of philosophies as Godless and declaring them the enemy of religion is unfortunately a perfect example of following blindly.  

posted by gomedome on November 20, 2006 at 4:50 PM | link to this | reply

Odysseus - optimism in this case in is in the eye of the beholder
I do fly south in the winter, though not every winter and not to the same destination every time. Last time was Cancun.

posted by gomedome on November 20, 2006 at 4:46 PM | link to this | reply

Xeno-x - that's it - the old and very tired misconception that only those

who believe in a God of some sort can be good people.

 

posted by gomedome on November 20, 2006 at 4:43 PM | link to this | reply

David1Spirit - my thinking has it that the world would be a better place if
more people adopted these philosophies.

posted by gomedome on November 20, 2006 at 4:42 PM | link to this | reply

It's an enemy because it's Godless. We don't follow blindly.

posted by franciscan on November 20, 2006 at 3:34 PM | link to this | reply

Looks like we've finally found something we can agree about.......
.........just add a little bit of optimism and the receipe will be just about tempered........by the way, why don't you fly south for the winter, like the rest of the snow birds hanging around down here.  LOL 

posted by telemachus on November 20, 2006 at 2:47 PM | link to this | reply

ay rational-thinking person can be described as a secular humanist

believers'problem is that Humanism promotes behaviorthat believers want to think comes only from religious dogma.

you don't need to believe in order to be good.

posted by Xeno-x on November 20, 2006 at 1:57 PM | link to this | reply

So I am a secular humanist?? Hmmmm!

Based on that description I think I am close to being one.

Well, closer to being a secular humanist than I ever was to being a Catholic.

Much to the chagrin of just about every friend and relative I have ever had.

posted by David1Spirit on November 20, 2006 at 1:33 PM | link to this | reply