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Star, it's changed hasn't it? That's a good pic - nice smile.
And funny profile underneath. Sounds like at least three of you helped to write it!
posted by
Antonionioni
on December 3, 2006 at 1:00 AM
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Star, what do you mean? I'll come and have a look.
posted by
Antonionioni
on December 3, 2006 at 12:55 AM
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I wouldn't dare say that, Blanche!
posted by
Antonionioni
on December 3, 2006 at 12:54 AM
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See you, Tony, I just meant trees are not stuck-up or arrogant
vain or petty. They're not women.
posted by
Blanche.
on December 2, 2006 at 10:44 PM
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y, check out star's about me page, u find some one you knew before
posted by
star4sky5
on December 2, 2006 at 7:39 PM
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don't tell me you are not in bed yet.
Very naughty!!!! don't forget to do your teeth!
posted by
marieclaire66
on December 2, 2006 at 6:10 PM
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Tony
Once again I say very nicely done 
posted by
Kat02
on December 2, 2006 at 4:52 PM
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I seem to like writing about trees, though.
It's because they're there, outside the window. You write about them as well, don't you, MC. I'm more tired than I thought, so I'm going to bed for a while. Good night for now!
posted by
Antonionioni
on December 2, 2006 at 4:51 PM
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Eek, Tony, they're TREES. They simply get to be beautiful as God made them
posted by
Blanche.
on December 2, 2006 at 3:15 PM
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just taking a peek in case you are here.
posted by
marieclaire66
on December 2, 2006 at 2:55 PM
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Tony, thanks for the long explanation.
I am truly enlightened now... honest, thanks for that. i got the wrong end of the stick because i knew nothing about what you were actually referring to. The cultural gap always catches up on me in the end. I am learning. What you had to say is interesting and all new to me. now go and watch the footy on telly as they say here.
posted by
marieclaire66
on December 2, 2006 at 12:39 PM
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Hi MC
'Pathetic fallacy' is just what it is called. I didn't name it. I think it was called that by someone in the nineteenth century, possibly John Ruskin, the art critic. It doesn't mean it's wrong to use it. I do it all the time. I did it today in my own poem. I even contradicted myself, because I gave the trees humanlike feelings, and then later on, perhaps more accurately, said that the trees DON't have these feelings, or at least implied that, by showing how unaware they are of human concerns. But, of course, they may, on a non-thinking level, have tree concerns. Perhaps I just described the trees as we humans think of them, which is compatible with the later part of the poem which says they DON'T think like humansThat doesn't mean that I thought the trees REALLY did feel proud about winter, or that the berries really were looking down at the missing berries, and contemplating their end. It means I was contemplating their end. A pathetic fallacy is, i think, when the poet writes in such a way as to make it seem as thought the tree or the inanimate object really does have thos efeelings. But, like you, i tend to think that at no point does a poet ever truly believe an object is like a human, but the poet gives them false characteristics knowingly, and the reader knows they are false descriptions, but they are ways of describing objects in an amusing or interesting way which is quicker than describing them without any poetic device. Phew! Do you know what I'm going on about? This is the longest comment anyone has made on my site, i think. I'm honoured. I'll pretend someone else wrote it!
posted by
Antonionioni
on December 2, 2006 at 12:22 PM
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Tony, i don't understand,
the pathetic phallacy, you are referring to, i resort to it all the time. Personification is a poetic device, not some lowly pathetic thing you resort to. Okay, i am not taking it personally, but can you explain what you actually mean?
posted by
marieclaire66
on December 2, 2006 at 11:49 AM
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hi again Blanche and Tony...
I love trees, and I talk to them!
posted by
marieclaire66
on December 2, 2006 at 11:41 AM
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Berry good to see you, MC and Blanche
Yes, I can't help using the old 'pathetic fallacy' now and then, and seeing objects as though they had our characters. I always think of the evergreens as being really puffed up with pride as winter arrives. 'Now we are the most beautiful ones again,' you can image them thinking!
posted by
Antonionioni
on December 2, 2006 at 11:17 AM
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There is a gnarled old holly tree outside the C & P, when the deciduous
trees lose their leaves, the evergreens subtly come into their own.
posted by
Blanche.
on December 2, 2006 at 10:30 AM
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berry nice Tony! I am awake!
posted by
marieclaire66
on December 2, 2006 at 10:28 AM
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Hello Star, Afzal and Farsailor
Thanks berry much.
posted by
Antonionioni
on December 2, 2006 at 9:44 AM
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Nice thought .
posted by
afzal50
on December 2, 2006 at 7:08 AM
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beautiful Tony
posted by
star4sky5
on December 2, 2006 at 6:35 AM
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BERRY FINE WORK INDEED
AFTER ALL THE BIRDS AND SQUIRRELS ARE IN NEED....
posted by
FARSAILOR
on December 2, 2006 at 6:34 AM
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Thanks very much, Solo
Much appreciated.
posted by
Antonionioni
on December 2, 2006 at 6:29 AM
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Great
I have really enjoyed your work ,don't think i have read one that was not just as wonderfully done as this one
posted by
SoloVale
on December 2, 2006 at 6:15 AM
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