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because of the hatred of the anglophone culture.
posted by
WileyJohn
on March 15, 2007 at 8:26 AM
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Nautikos
I'll betcha in Quebec they'll TRY to meld or they'd better not go there. When Quebec wants rid of ya, life becomes intolerable, I know. About 200,000 other anglophones including me, left Quebec because the hatred of the anglophone culture was hated.
posted by
WileyJohn
on March 15, 2007 at 8:25 AM
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OTA
Thanks for your extensive comment on the 'Islamist Tsunami' series. You also raise some important issues, and I have decided to add them to the range of questions I intend to address at some point. We have just started to scratch the surface!
It wasn't my intention, originally, to write something for publication, but I am getting so much material together, and have been spending so much time thinking about all this (more than is good for me, since it interferes with my other work sometimes, lol), that I may change my mind. And if I do, whatever I write will be published under my own name. I may not be John Wayne, but I have an 'attitude' and a real reluctance to back down from any s.o.b., especially someone who wants to deny me the right to think and speak! 
posted by
Nautikos
on March 14, 2007 at 3:55 PM
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Naut
I spent much of the morning reading your series "The Islamist Tsunami" and I am just fascinated. As a Christian, I will tell you that all of it does not come as a complete surprise given things I have read in the Bible. But I wont go into all of that. The details of the how and why of this "wave" are simply stunning to consider. Just a few comments on your post:(in no particular order..my head is still swimming)
~the vacua you describe interest me as they apply at so many levels of human behavior
~I don't know any one that professes to be Muslim personally and I have to wonder if the average "Joe" muslims have any collective desire to participate in these extreme activities. Christians are notorious for leaving there faith at the altar on SUnday morning not to be picked up again until Sunday morning, so I wonder, does the same apply here.. or .. a whole new set of rules?
~Greater minds than mine can only answer this but it would seem that the western "John Wayne kick ass" mentality is not going to affect the outcome of this one nor will the traditional warm fuzzy embrace of democratic "love" for everyone different.
~kudos to Corbin Dallas.. his comments during your posts were informative and truly added to the piece.
~someone commented (I think it may have been Corbin?) that you should consider publishing this material and I tend to agree, however with the caveat that a pen name might be a wise idea? lol
posted by
Blue_feathers
on March 14, 2007 at 1:04 PM
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rich
thanks for dropping in!
posted by
Nautikos
on March 14, 2007 at 12:17 PM
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Whinge
I think part of the answer is suggested in my series. But I'll be getting around to why it is as
strong as it is here. At least I'll have some suggestions...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 14, 2007 at 12:16 PM
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Corbin,
but can Tigers change their stripes...?
posted by
Nautikos
on March 14, 2007 at 12:12 PM
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Have had a chance this evening to read all of these posts.
I don't get how as a religion it's as strong as it is. I mean Catholicism has taken huge dent here, and people are just not bothered in this day & age.
It's not fair to say it's an insular thing either as per this post, some of the terrorists are well educated, and seem wordly.
What's the trick? I don't get it.
posted by
CringeintheUSA
on March 14, 2007 at 9:52 AM
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naut.
posted by
richinstore
on March 14, 2007 at 6:41 AM
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Hmmmmm???
It appears that Leopards can change their spots.......
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on March 14, 2007 at 6:15 AM
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1Time
that was the idea...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 14, 2007 at 6:12 AM
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Tanga
of course it's scary! But
they find it acceptable and
desirable! The sooner we get rid of the idea that these are simply nut cases, the better...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 14, 2007 at 6:11 AM
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Morning, hon
posted by
Nautikos
on March 14, 2007 at 6:09 AM
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Wiley
I think that town made the right decision. But it's something that ought to be handled at the federal level, and it won't be. They will not meld; they will not move out; and they will continue to come...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 14, 2007 at 6:07 AM
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Certainly makes me think.
posted by
1TimeSoldier
on March 14, 2007 at 5:14 AM
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morning Naut
posted by
Offy
on March 14, 2007 at 4:50 AM
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Simply scary
that a mother is willing to sacrifice a child
posted by
Tanga
on March 14, 2007 at 1:22 AM
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Nautikos
It convinces me now of the decision by that Quebec town recently.
They posted those regulations after a town council meeting about Muslim immigrants. They better meld in with the general population or move out and better still don't settle there.
That's the only way for us to stem the tide or we'll become like Europe.
posted by
WileyJohn
on March 13, 2007 at 8:32 PM
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Offy
Of course it makes no sense to us! The problem is that it makes a lot of sense to
them, and I am trying to understand the reasons it does. And the more I understand, the more pessimistic I get. I hope I am wrong, but I think we are just at the very beginning of this thing. I'm afraid there's going to be a lot of nasty stuff coming down the pipe. Too bad that it'll take that before people will wake up...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 13, 2007 at 6:21 PM
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Justi
Of course! That is exactly it, and it's scary! The problem is, we can't throw them in jail or deport them just because of their allegiance to Allah...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 13, 2007 at 6:14 PM
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Naut
This is very scary stuff. Years ago you would never have heard of women doing these things. I will never understand the mind of a terrorist. They kill so many innocent people while trying to target what they perceive as their enemy, It makes no sense!!!
posted by
Offy
on March 13, 2007 at 6:13 PM
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Pat B
you're right - it is chilling...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 13, 2007 at 6:07 PM
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Nautikos
There is one common factor in all of them. They pay allegiance to Allah.
posted by
Justi
on March 13, 2007 at 5:56 PM
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Chills. I'm feeling chills... brrrr.
posted by
Pat_B
on March 13, 2007 at 1:36 PM
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OTA
...and come to think of it, it might be more correct to say they
were looking for meaning, but now they have
found it...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 13, 2007 at 12:06 PM
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OTA
You're absolutely correct! These are not your (stereo)typical 'lost souls'. Which is why this is getting very serious indeed! Even in the Middle East, research has shown that the majority of suicide bombers come from middle class families and have a secondary education...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 13, 2007 at 12:04 PM
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Naut
they just done seem to fit the stereotype "lost" soul is what I was thinking.. yes looking for meaning.I guess I have this picture of "Jim Jones" followers that they dont seem to fit.
posted by
Blue_feathers
on March 13, 2007 at 11:53 AM
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OTA
I think they
are looking for meaning...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 13, 2007 at 11:51 AM
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Enigmatic
thanks. Yep, it really is a depressing topic, ain't it? Maybe I should start doing a series on roller-coasters or something...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 13, 2007 at 11:50 AM
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Naut
..wow.. I would wonder if these "converts" were "lost souls" looking for meaning but as the article points out.. it would seem that education and or maturity are not factors in the personalities of those who participate in those activities.
posted by
Blue_feathers
on March 13, 2007 at 6:15 AM
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Nautikos
I'm with you all the way - keep it coming, as depressing as it may get sometimes!
posted by
Enigmatic68
on March 12, 2007 at 9:55 PM
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