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Hi Wiley - the fourth age... good point.
I really haven't dealt with that yet. Do I dare (to eat the peach?)

posted by Antonionioni on June 19, 2007 at 9:59 AM | link to this | reply

Thanks, Circuit - it's nice to be ambitious with these sonnets -
or pretentious, if you prefer!!!

posted by Antonionioni on June 19, 2007 at 9:58 AM | link to this | reply

Hi Sue - thanks for popping in this morning! Hope you had a nice day!!

posted by Antonionioni on June 19, 2007 at 9:57 AM | link to this | reply

Tonyzonit
The fourth age will be better pard. Like, I have to think that you know?lol

posted by WileyJohn on June 19, 2007 at 8:37 AM | link to this | reply

Life scaled in half page. Great.

posted by circuit on June 19, 2007 at 5:19 AM | link to this | reply

good morning Tony

posted by star4sky5 on June 19, 2007 at 1:03 AM | link to this | reply

Hi Teddy - thanks a lot!!!

posted by Antonionioni on June 19, 2007 at 12:38 AM | link to this | reply

Hi Star - good to see you!

posted by Antonionioni on June 19, 2007 at 12:37 AM | link to this | reply

Hi Kabu - tell me more!

posted by Antonionioni on June 19, 2007 at 12:37 AM | link to this | reply

Hi Dark Mistress - thanks very much!!!

posted by Antonionioni on June 19, 2007 at 12:36 AM | link to this | reply

Thanks Ennio!!

posted by Antonionioni on June 19, 2007 at 12:35 AM | link to this | reply

Hi Mary - thanks, I had a good sleep (to paraphrase an infamous scene
featuring Borat in his TV show (not the movie). Glad we are reading from the same hymn sheet!!

posted by Antonionioni on June 19, 2007 at 12:35 AM | link to this | reply

Hi Sannhet - Thanks! That book sounds interesting!
Nine stages - that's a lot! I expect it's some kind of recommended self-learning process, is it, rather than claiming that everyone gores thru nine stages naturally?

posted by Antonionioni on June 19, 2007 at 12:33 AM | link to this | reply

Indeed...well done!

posted by teddypoet_TheGoodByeFade on June 18, 2007 at 9:30 PM | link to this | reply

posted by star4sky5 on June 18, 2007 at 8:10 PM | link to this | reply

Tony of course there's more, any nurse can tell you that.

posted by Kabu on June 18, 2007 at 8:07 PM | link to this | reply

That was raelly well written...
excellent!

posted by dark_mistress on June 18, 2007 at 7:08 PM | link to this | reply

Tony
Excellent!

posted by Enigmatic68 on June 18, 2007 at 6:52 PM | link to this | reply

Tony - Ha, ha, ha! You are toooooooooooo funny!
NO.  We must not let salmon go to waist lest we suffer from salmonella.    Believe me, I've lived with that horrid bacteria three times!  I wish this upon no one and no thing.  That said.  YES!  I so agree with you.  THAT is exactly what threw me.  I just didn't know how to say it and could only articulate the way I did.  Bless you for hearing me.  We're on the same page now.  Get ready.  SOON, I'm going to post my very first sonnet.  I don't know why, but this medium is sooooooooooo difficult for me.  Perhaps because I'm a virgo and a perfectionist?  Hope you're having a lovely sleep. 

posted by FoliageGold on June 18, 2007 at 4:44 PM | link to this | reply

Tony -
Beautiful. It reminds me a bit of the 9 stages of spiritual development that Jim Marion explains in his book, Putting on the Mind of Christ.

posted by sannhet on June 18, 2007 at 4:37 PM | link to this | reply

Hi Proc - agreed - there is no timetable to this.
One might not start to feel there is 'something' out there until the final hours. Or one might arrive at that conclusion while still young.

posted by Antonionioni on June 18, 2007 at 3:28 PM | link to this | reply

Hi OTA - yes, thanks very much - hope you recognised some of it as true!

posted by Antonionioni on June 18, 2007 at 3:27 PM | link to this | reply

Hi Mary
We keep missing each other - I just ate half a tin of salmon! Yum! And that was my second 'meal' this evening. I had to weat it though or it might have started to go off, because i opened it yesterday. Anyway, the flaw was the way the third stage lasted 6 lines - I thought maybe that's what fooled you into thinking the thirds stage was disappointment, and then the last two lines of the poem were musings aboyut something else, perhaps. The final 'something' allows the reader and me to include almost any explanation for the universe that they want, rather than saying 'Jesus' or 'Allah' or this or that. Any of these are acceptable within the framework of the poem, as is the notion that it may nort even be a conventional god but just the universe itself, or some other type of mysterious force that we can't understand, that has never communicated with us directly. It's my bedtime now. How do I get rid of these italics???

posted by Antonionioni on June 18, 2007 at 3:26 PM | link to this | reply

Tonyzonit, yes, there is but everyone comes to the discovery at their
own time and space. 

posted by proc on June 18, 2007 at 2:39 PM | link to this | reply

Tony, Wonderful look at the progression of thought in our lives. I really like this one Sir!

~Peace

posted by Blue_feathers on June 18, 2007 at 2:37 PM | link to this | reply

Tony - I'm back again. Cuppa was great. Just wondered what you meant
by a flaw in the sonnet? 

posted by FoliageGold on June 18, 2007 at 2:29 PM | link to this | reply

Tony - Ah, okay yes.
I just re-read it.  I looked at that last line differently.  Yes, there is something, but I wanted to know what.  And no, it's not always definable.  It was just that word, 'something' that tripped me up because I was waiting for more.  I wanted to know what the something was.  But you're right, it's like throwing up your arms and accepting.  Plus I was hung up on my own concept of four rather than three.  So my error.  Well done!  Really enjoyed this one. 

posted by FoliageGold on June 18, 2007 at 2:27 PM | link to this | reply

Hi M - I've just found out who you are - welcome back, darlin'!

posted by Antonionioni on June 18, 2007 at 2:24 PM | link to this | reply

Hi Mary
You've got the hang of it, almost. I can see why you might have missed the third stage - which is the acceptance you are mentioning - because it continues from the third quatrain, into the final couplet, and ends with the thought that there might be something after all. The disappointment leads to the end of the arrogance and the return of questioning, but from a more informed perspective than when we were questioning little children. So instead of believing in fairies this time round, our questions, though not always finding answers, are at least more mature, and we can understand the subtleties of the universe instead of just the clearly visible things that children see. So disappointment etc is the bridge between the second and third stages. Thanks - hope you read this!

posted by Antonionioni on June 18, 2007 at 2:20 PM | link to this | reply

posted by _Symphony_ on June 18, 2007 at 1:34 PM | link to this | reply

Tony...........
Permit me........ 3 ages of spirit = unquestionable belief, dominating arrogance and disappointment.........  I keep thinking trinity, but I know that's not what you're meaning.  For me there's another dimension.  I look at the four stages of a woman, childhood, adulthood, senior and crone.........so I guess I'm wanting a fourth stage in your piece and this is of acceptance.  But that's just me.  Very thought-provoking sonnet.  Well done. 

posted by FoliageGold on June 18, 2007 at 1:17 PM | link to this | reply

Thanks Troosha - I'm really pleased you agreed with its main idea!
Just goes to show how similar we are - cheers me up!

posted by Antonionioni on June 18, 2007 at 12:05 PM | link to this | reply

Tony
Not "cold" at all, Tony - an accurate progression of our openess to Spirit.  As we get past the era of thinking we know it all we begin to ask questions and open our hearts to something far greater than oursleves.  Well done, as always. 

posted by Troosha on June 18, 2007 at 11:44 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Hi IP - thanks! You never know, you may change again!
Yeah,I'll let time do the talking and then maybe...you never know

posted by IronicParadox on June 18, 2007 at 11:36 AM | link to this | reply

Hi IP - thanks! You never know, you may change again!

posted by Antonionioni on June 18, 2007 at 11:33 AM | link to this | reply

Wise words my friend!I have changed once for now I think.

posted by IronicParadox on June 18, 2007 at 11:23 AM | link to this | reply

Well, Drohan, that depends on the individual's age.
Personally, I would say I'm approaching that third age now! It's not about society as a whole, just individuals - although it's quite autobiographical. Some no doubt have never wavered from their original worldview, or only changed once.

posted by Antonionioni on June 18, 2007 at 11:14 AM | link to this | reply

wisely and beautifully written Tony zonit , but in which stage we are now ?

posted by drohan254 on June 18, 2007 at 10:51 AM | link to this | reply