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Anton"" and Enigmatic - I've copied s/thing on death written by my idol
| Written By Percy Bysshe Shelley! I dare not guess; but in this life |
| Of error, ignorance, and strife, |
| Where nothing is, but all things seem, |
| And we the shadows of the dream, |
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| 300 | It is a modest creed, and yet |
| Pleasant if one considers it, |
| To own that death itself must be, |
| Like all the rest, a mockery. |
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| That garden sweet, that lady fair, |
| 305 | And all sweet shapes and odours there, |
| In truth have never passed away: |
| 'Tis we, 'tis ours, are changed; not they. |
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| For love, and beauty, and delight, |
| There is no death nor change: their might |
| 310 | Exceeds our organs, which endure |
| No light, being themselves obscure. |
posted by
SpencerStreetStation
on August 1, 2007 at 6:13 PM
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Antonio
If there is an afterlife, and a Hell (I'm open to different possibilities), I think I'd be very upset, if I thought I could have avoided it. How about a 3rd choice - fearing natural death, which I do, and not heeding your words. lol! 
posted by
Enigmatic68
on August 1, 2007 at 5:48 PM
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Awesome!
Keep your good work! I love reading more of your expression. Very beautiful!
posted by
danieljulie
on August 1, 2007 at 5:27 PM
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Hi Dave - was thinking about Phil Oakey this morning.
More specifically Empire State Human, which was crap, as far as I remember, but I'd like to hear it again to see if it's as crap as I thought at the time.
posted by
Antonionioni
on August 1, 2007 at 8:23 AM
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Erm, yes, Mneme, and I can imagine it's not a pleasant form of recycling.
You'll have to excuse my poor memory, though. Oh wait, I was getting mixed up with 1984. No, I've not seen it, tho I did read the book many years ago. All I can remember is they took 'soma'. Or was that 1984? Doh...
posted by
Antonionioni
on August 1, 2007 at 8:21 AM
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Philosophiloakey!
posted by
_dave_says_ack_
on August 1, 2007 at 8:07 AM
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antonionio
Very profound...
Ever seen Brave New World? - the ultimate in recycling.
posted by
mneme
on August 1, 2007 at 7:57 AM
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Hi Mariaki - exactly. there was and is a group called NERD, which stands 4:
No-one Ever Really Dies.
posted by
Antonionioni
on August 1, 2007 at 6:22 AM
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Hi Notapoet - thanks for your comments, much appreciated.
I agree - if we do die - momentarily - it's good to reuse ourselves - or, if you want to look at it another way, to be reused by ourselves, i.e. by the universe.
posted by
Antonionioni
on August 1, 2007 at 6:20 AM
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Amusing musings I hope - well maybe not this time! Thanks Kabu!
posted by
Antonionioni
on August 1, 2007 at 6:18 AM
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That's very nice of you, Pelagus -
posted by
Antonionioni
on August 1, 2007 at 6:17 AM
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Hi Angel - many thanks!!
posted by
Antonionioni
on August 1, 2007 at 6:15 AM
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Hi Sue!
posted by
Antonionioni
on August 1, 2007 at 6:14 AM
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Like it or not everything is recycled
and so it has to be as nothing ever really dies............. nice one Antonio
posted by
mariaki
on August 1, 2007 at 4:36 AM
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Parallels and multiple meanings.
I like. To me recycling while we live, and being recycled when we are gone, is comforting and sensible. Until they isolate an immortality gene we need to make the best use of the time, and the resources, we have.
posted by
notapoet
on August 1, 2007 at 2:26 AM
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Antoniphilosophiconi great musings friend1
posted by
Kabu
on August 1, 2007 at 2:07 AM
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deeply moving!
i love it!! 
posted by
pelagus
on August 1, 2007 at 1:58 AM
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Excellent antonionioni
posted by
dark_mistress_again
on July 31, 2007 at 11:59 PM
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Hi Durbs - many thanks! I told you to look at the camera, child!
posted by
Antonionioni
on July 31, 2007 at 11:58 PM
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Hi Bhaskar - thanks very much for that - glad you thought so!
posted by
Antonionioni
on July 31, 2007 at 11:56 PM
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Hi Najwa - the answer to those questions is I don't know - but all will be
revealed - - we just need a bit of patience. Thanks again!!
posted by
Antonionioni
on July 31, 2007 at 11:52 PM
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posted by
star4sky5
on July 31, 2007 at 10:49 PM
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GREAT klessons from how biology & Nature recycles within&without.We must
learn from ...not dominate Nature. shalomandgodluck
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posted by
ILLUMINATI8
on July 31, 2007 at 8:43 PM
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A first-class philosophical sonnet. Congrats Tony
The arrangement of the words were a beauty.
posted by
Bhaskar.ing
on July 31, 2007 at 7:29 PM
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HI TONY
Did you ever experiences the Death?? NOOOOO but we think it is the blank between here and there,,, did you ever met some one dead and came back to life??? may be you read or heard but you had never met,,, may be the moment of the death in counting of GOD time is one year that is why who dead and came back to the life after few hours still look younger than his true age and has pure child soul??
New study we should consider it for thoughts just thoughtsmay be true,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
your friend the stranger,
,,,,,,,,,,,,najwa
posted by
NAJWA
on July 31, 2007 at 4:09 PM
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Hi Enig - well if there is an afterlife, then I'll be right - death isn't
important coz we'll be alive again. And if there isn't, we won't give a damn. While we're alive, we generally are ruled by life force - we want to stay alive and free, which is why we don't kill ourselves, harm ourselves or harm other people, assuming we are sane. the kind of mad people you are talking about would have to be insane. While alive, our purpose is to stay alive - everything else follows on from that. So I'm not demeaning the value of life. The end of this very sonnet makes the point that we would, if we could, overturn death itself - and who knows, one day that might happen. The point I'm making about death, and I had a natural death in mind, is that people shouldn't fear it. Don't you agree? If you do fear (naturral) death, then heed my words. If you don't, you basically agree with me!!
posted by
Antonionioni
on July 31, 2007 at 3:53 PM
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Hi Spencer - thanks for those words. I'll pop over ...
posted by
Antonionioni
on July 31, 2007 at 3:47 PM
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Antonio
If there's some kind of afterlife, maybe we will give a damn - I'd rather see my life (and your life) as profoundly serious, and deeply mourn your loss or vice-versa. When you (not you, personally) start seeing our lives as not important, and death as nothing serious, that's when certain people in bars/pubs start saying things like, "You know, burning those books, last night was really fun - let's burn some people, tonight - then we can take cyanide tablets - AWESOME! 
posted by
Enigmatic68
on July 31, 2007 at 2:19 PM
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Anton" You are correct. Death is life. We have all travelled down ceasless
endless and timeless corridors of eternity to be here in a brief moment. My next post is dedicated to you. I'll upload in 2 minutes. Oh, for Enig as well!!!!
posted by
SpencerStreetStation
on July 31, 2007 at 1:26 PM
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Enig - we must stop seeing our lives as important - then we will realise
that death is nothing serious! It's sadder for those who are left behind who know us than for anyone else. We won't give a damn when we're dead - what's the problem? I'm not sounding suicidal, am I?!
posted by
Antonionioni
on July 31, 2007 at 1:12 PM
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Yes Chris - burial is a strange custom really isn't it - it doesn't make
sense when land is scarce! Thanks!
posted by
Antonionioni
on July 31, 2007 at 1:08 PM
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Anton"" possibly the best I've read of you? The saddest thing: Some people
are afraid TO LIVE and AFRAID TO DIE. There is nothing sadder than this my friend - what a way to live! Anyways, really profounf sonnet and hats off (to roy harper!! Led Zep) to you man.
posted by
SpencerStreetStation
on July 31, 2007 at 12:27 PM
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Antonio
I think death is probably eternal - or not eternal. 
posted by
Enigmatic68
on July 31, 2007 at 12:24 PM
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That's quite thought provoking Tony-I like it a lot! It makes you wonder-
where 're-cycling' will go next? Maybe they will cease to allow traditional 'burials'-because of the space they use? Great.Chris.
posted by
Scramble
on July 31, 2007 at 12:22 PM
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Hi OTA, Troosha and Mary - thanks 4 comments. I'm in a rush as u can tell!
Essentially it's about the process of death and what happens after the moment of death - and then at the end, how we would like to overturn the supposed reign of death. The opening line and inspiration of the poem is that when you think about it, the death we fear is only a moment, a second or two, like the act of f alling asleep. What is there to fear. This doesn't mean there aren't horrible ways to die, but I'm not talking about the approach to death, but death itself. It's like the present moment, only brief, transitory ; then other things continue to happen afterwards. So death is not eternal at all. There may be more to write on this topic to fully explain it...
posted by
Antonionioni
on July 31, 2007 at 11:51 AM
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Antonio-yo-yo - Wow, this is a very deep one delving into things we
simply cannot see. Or feel for that matter, I guess. How do you mean death is not eternal?
posted by
FoliageGold
on July 31, 2007 at 10:59 AM
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Tony
We probably pay more attention to recycling old news papers or plastic cartons than we do to shaking up and reshaping our minds or spirit.
(if I caught you drift....but that's what I gleaned from the sonnet). Your clever ability to shape words, draw parallels, and get us thinking shines through, as always.
posted by
Troosha
on July 31, 2007 at 10:51 AM
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Tony, I like your sonnet so much, I am thinking perhaps that you are a reincarnated w. Shakespeare himself. ~Peace, OTA
posted by
Blue_feathers
on July 31, 2007 at 10:49 AM
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