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Those freaks with the victim mentality annoy me!
They may be nice, but they're natural losers.
posted by
justanotherskinnybitch
on August 27, 2007 at 4:00 PM
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Hahahahaha to Strat's last sentence!
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on August 22, 2007 at 7:48 AM
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I don't know.
They say Adolph Hitler loved dogs. And some of the nicest, most charming folks in the world are con artists.
I suppose if they can smile and rip me off then I can smile as I beat the crap out of them.
posted by
strat
on August 22, 2007 at 7:39 AM
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Interesting thought,
I know many nice people who sometimes behave badly. There's never an excuse for bad behavior but everyone has bad moments or bad days or maybe sometimes caught at a vernable moment when they are falling apart or maybe reacting to the actions of another. I guess it depends on what degree of bad behavior. Just my two cents.
posted by
roadscross
on August 21, 2007 at 11:41 PM
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(...Mrs ChiliTree...)
posted by
Chilitree
on August 21, 2007 at 11:14 PM
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julia
So many people describe murderers as "quite, the nicest person......" Equal punishment
posted by
Tattered_Knight
on August 21, 2007 at 10:47 PM
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Hhmmm..interesting question. Right or wrong, I think people generally do have a tendency to forgive a "nice" person more easily. I probably am too.
posted by
Holy_Grail
on August 21, 2007 at 3:36 PM
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but would a truly nice person steal to begin with
...and are they stealing out of necessity?
posted by
MiaElla
on August 21, 2007 at 12:42 PM
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Depends...
...on a lotta thangs! If someone is generally a good person and suddenly misbehaves, then it at least deserves the benefit of a doubt. There's usually another reason lurking behind the surface...or maybe he/she is simply unaware of the transgression... So hear 'm out first, spank 'm later!
posted by
Helen_Bach
on August 21, 2007 at 9:33 AM
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It depends what you mean by 'nice', but substituting something like 'generally regarded as good', then don't courts routinely recognise 'previous good character'. The law doesn't and shouldn't treat everyone the same. If I punch a man for the first time, I'm slightly 'nicer' than someone who punches a man for the second time. I don't want a law governed by zero tolerance. That's a bit too Old Testament for me. Mind you, the New Testament's not that much better. I'll stop there, as I'm heading off on a tangent.
posted by
_dave_says_ack_
on August 21, 2007 at 1:38 AM
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While I think it doesn't matter if you are butt ugly or Cinderella good looking a crime is a crime....or is it? Well that depends on the nature of the crime. I would be able to forgive even the ugliest if the crime if was not one inflicted out of hatred or malice. I strongly believe we should be able to forgive most crimes if the person is truly remorseful and they haven't killed or harmed anyone. It's the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony 5...
posted by
Offy
on August 21, 2007 at 1:33 AM
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Satan was very nice when he asked Eve to eat the apple..didnt force her to take it.. just charmed his way in.
As for forgiving.. hmmm forgiving is one thing.. forgetting is another. If I forgive the mistake and then forget the mistake.. I am doomed to repeat the same mistake. Mistakes are not people. People are not mistakes. ~Peace, OTA
posted by
Blue_feathers
on August 21, 2007 at 1:17 AM
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even the mean ones can find compassion and build up support by somehow
playing the victim. It's truly hard to comprehend at times... but I suppose it's human nature to forgive? dammit. LOL
I agree though... the same consequence should be applied whether nice or not. Nice is sometimes even worse because you don't expect the same crimes to come from the good. You might get blindsided.
posted by
-blackcat
on August 20, 2007 at 7:33 PM
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julia
there are hypocrites in all societies and being nice but stabbing someone in the back doesn't make it right. You could sit next to a robber in church does that change the fact he is a robber, just because he goes to church?
posted by
Lanetay
on August 20, 2007 at 6:39 PM
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Julia
If they were truly nice they wouldn't do the wrong thing, would they? I don't think they shoulde be let off for committing serious crimes. Lesser crimes .... you'd need to know all the circumstances - this is a minefield..:)
posted by
mneme
on August 20, 2007 at 4:37 PM
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Handsome is as handsome (or nice) does... F. Gump
I think the ones wearing a nice mask know that underneath lives a nasty grin.
posted by
Pat_B
on August 20, 2007 at 4:29 PM
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hahahahahahahahahaha
posted by
MaggieMae
on August 20, 2007 at 4:22 PM
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Julia, I think nice people do tend to get away with more..........
That's why I'm very, very nice.
posted by
MaggieMae
on August 20, 2007 at 4:22 PM
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Nice people do tend to have their behavior overlooked,
don't they? <<smiling, batting eyelashes>> That is such an iiiinteresting topic, Julia! You are soooo smart.
posted by
FactorFiction
on August 20, 2007 at 4:18 PM
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The good and ugly make mistakes.
posted by
A-and-B
on August 20, 2007 at 3:36 PM
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But it is that way, in some instances......
This is a great question, but I have a personal experience that taught me, many years ago, this behavior absolutely exists here, in my very own backyard. My brother was shot and killed by a "vigilante." He was charged with 1st degree murder, then the charged was reduced to 2nd degree murder, by the Grand Jury. Unfortunately, his history was "the nice guy." The defense attorney was able to submit tales of his "Polio, since childhood," his clean record with the law, etc. He was also able to drag in every last dirty little detail of my brother's somewhat nasty arrest record and history of domestic violence and addiction. Even though the vigilante had a clear and private option from, his closed door bedroom to dial 911 and request help with the disturbance he "heard" my brother creating, he instead "chose" to grab his 22 pistol from his closet, leave the safety of his room and handle the situation himself. By definition and from the very voices of two eye witnesses within feet of the gun fire, he killed my brother, it was without question 2nd degree murder. But, he was "the nice guy" - he just was, and that's what the jury based their decision to "acquit," upon. They tried my brother's past, not the defendant's actions. After we were dismissed, the prosecuter put her arms around me and cried as she offered her only words of consolation - "I don't understand it, it should have been involuntary manslaughter, at the very least. All I can say is we are not promised justice, we are only promised due process." Oh yes, it happens and "the nice guy" recovered his 22 pistol on his way out of the courthouse that day!
Great topic of discussion
posted by
OneBetty
on August 20, 2007 at 3:34 PM
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Nice people get away with far more than mean people do. LOL I admit,
I seem to forgive and forget easier when someone is nice...but as a result, the person is less likely to change...one has to be held accountable for true transformation to happen.
No one is perfect though, so I sometimes wonder where we draw the line? Maybe we all have to pay for our sins and reap the consequences of our actions? I dunno...maybe some actions are worse than others because they violate others?
posted by
Ariala
on August 20, 2007 at 3:14 PM
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Julia
Excellent post!
posted by
Enigmatic68
on August 20, 2007 at 2:35 PM
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Julia.......You have.....................
!
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on August 20, 2007 at 2:19 PM
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Geesh Julia...Where did you come up with this one???? LOL
Can you hear me whistling as I walk away? LOL
posted by
RckyMtnActivist
on August 20, 2007 at 2:11 PM
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Julia...I see your point....and I agree we shouldn't.....
however it depends on the nature of the crime....and whether said person as appologized and is now not doing wrong.....I believe in second chances for the arse or the nice person either way.
posted by
Irish3
on August 20, 2007 at 2:11 PM
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