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lindo
Thanks! I think we'll have some fun...
posted by
Nautikos
on September 23, 2007 at 8:14 AM
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EX
Thanks!
posted by
Nautikos
on September 23, 2007 at 8:12 AM
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Naut
This is going to be a very interesting series and you are being very methodical and exact about it. I'll try to stop by whenever i find the time (and clarity of thinking) to read your latest. Take care and good luck.
posted by
lindo
on September 22, 2007 at 12:22 PM
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Naut:
Well constructed and informative.
posted by
EX_TURPI
on September 21, 2007 at 10:53 AM
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Re: Re: Naut
That's tellin' him, Sheilah! Okay, you've read the rest, where is the 'interesting' bit?
posted by
Nautikos
on September 18, 2007 at 5:38 PM
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Enigmatic
Living next to you guys, we have to be!
posted by
Nautikos
on September 18, 2007 at 5:36 PM
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Re: Naut
I was going to say something "interesting" about your post when I read a comment about canucks from some smart-ass american (LOL) ...so if you read this Enigmatic...don't you ever talk that way about canucks again!!!
hehehe
Ok, sorry about that Naut ... I lost myself here so I'll have to read your post again. LOL ... actually gonna have to start on Part I.
posted by
Sheilah
on September 17, 2007 at 5:29 PM
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Naut
You 'canucks' just can't resist being smart-asses, can you? You'd never find that, here in America - LOL! 
posted by
Enigmatic68
on September 17, 2007 at 4:27 PM
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Re: Nautikos, I have read and then read again these three posts...truly
Muser, I completely agree that the 'spark of curiosity' is instinctual, in animals as well as humans. Animals instinctively explore their environment in search of food, and we do so in search of 'food' as well as meaning...and 'faith' always is an 'answer', one that satifies...
posted by
Nautikos
on September 17, 2007 at 4:44 AM
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Re: Naut on Religion..Part III
Thanks, Wavy!
posted by
Nautikos
on September 16, 2007 at 12:12 PM
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Naut on Religion..Part III
Nautikos: All humans and animals are connected. Human beings have always wanted to know about the true nature of their lives. It will continue until the end of time.
posted by
WavyDavy
on September 16, 2007 at 11:57 AM
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OTA
LOL! Though I have never actually given birth, I have a pretty good idea of how things work. My 'very wet' comment was sort of triggered by thinking of one hypothesis according to which the very first forms of mono-cellular life appeared in rocks periodically washed by the sea, but not actually in the sea
proper...
posted by
Nautikos
on September 16, 2007 at 4:43 AM
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Nautikos, I have read and then read again these three posts...truly
thought provoking! In my thoughts in between, it occurred to me that each new generation continues to seek the answers to the great questions of life. Does this mean the answers have not yet been found...or could it be that the answers are right in front of us and we don't see them...or perhaps it is not the answer that is so important as what we learn in the seeking to answer the question. Is it not possible that this spark of curiosity we each have within us is instinctual...a kind of beacon that signals us when it is time for us to set out upon our own journey, our own quest of personal discovery...
I think of myself as a spiritual being residing within a body and possessing a mind of which it is said only a very small part of the power it possesses is used. I suppose I could also posit here if the intellect and the mind are the same? I am satisfied with the answers I have found so far, none of which could be proved empirically...but I am sure I will never lose my curiosity, and the prospect of all I will learn while chasing m slippery questions is exciting. I am only trying to say that perhaps the answers to the questions we seek are not only found with the intellect. Perhaps the questions are more important than the answers.
posted by
muser
on September 16, 2007 at 1:25 AM
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Naut...
I agree that our growth does not replicate historical developments as you say.. I was thinking more on the lines of how "religion" is developed over time.. the "religion" that I practice now is different from the religion I practiced a year ago... and even more different than what I practiced 10 years ago. Yet still different than what I practiced as a child. An evolution of sort..
oh and one other thing...
I have born two children.. I assure you.. we all start out in water... ~Peace, OTA
posted by
Blue_feathers
on September 15, 2007 at 7:53 PM
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OTA
Thanks for your very interesting comment. I think you're certainly correct in saying that you would be different (and think differently) had you been raised in 'different soil.' But the first observation, suggesting that the 'geowth' of one's faith mirrors what I am trying to sketch here does not follow.
In biology, there is a theory which states that ‘ontogeny mimics phylogeny.’ In plain English, this simply means that the individual’s development from conception to maturity mimics the evolutionary stages of the species to which it belongs. For example, in the very early stages, human embryos have ‘fins’ and ‘gills’; and indeed, our evolutionary process clearly did begin in the sea, or at least a in a very ‘wet’ environment.
But when we are speaking of types of thinking, of language and culture, it is by no means clear that we can draw similar conclusions. An individual’s intellectual or ‘spiritual’ change or ‘growth’ does not necessarily replicate historical developments of entire cultures.
posted by
Nautikos
on September 15, 2007 at 7:20 PM
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Naut
Thank you for writing this. I started thinking how much this history of man and the "roots" of religion may have been formed is similar to any single human's "roots" of religion. As a believer my faith has grown over the years to something it wasn't before. Certainly I would likely be different if I had been raised up in different soil, the core of me has been nurtured with my surroundings. You have me thinking good man! ~Peace, OTA
posted by
Blue_feathers
on September 15, 2007 at 7:15 AM
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rich
You're welcome!
posted by
Nautikos
on September 15, 2007 at 6:25 AM
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Enigmatic
Is that question meant to be an insult or a compliment?
posted by
Nautikos
on September 15, 2007 at 6:24 AM
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TAPS
I really appreciate that!
posted by
Nautikos
on September 15, 2007 at 6:21 AM
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Re: interesting
Thanks. MandaLee!
posted by
Nautikos
on September 15, 2007 at 6:20 AM
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Krisles
Thanks! That this invokes visions of ancient people's lives in you is really a huge compliment! I am trying to avoid the academic language of '-isms', though I'm afraid it will not always be entirely possible...
posted by
Nautikos
on September 15, 2007 at 6:19 AM
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Re: An excellent synopsis, Naut.
Thanks, saul, though it's extremely foreshortened...
posted by
Nautikos
on September 15, 2007 at 6:12 AM
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Re: i enjoyed reading this post , thanks
Thanks, callista, I appreciate that!
posted by
Nautikos
on September 15, 2007 at 6:11 AM
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Re:
Yep, Corbin, we're gettin' there, slowly...
posted by
Nautikos
on September 15, 2007 at 6:10 AM
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naut
thanks for sharing.
posted by
richinstore
on September 14, 2007 at 10:57 PM
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Naut
Were or are you, a teacher/professor? Please don't ask me if that question is meant to be an insult, or a compliment! LOL! 
posted by
Enigmatic68
on September 14, 2007 at 8:01 PM
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Nautikos
Anyone who is not reading this series is missing out on a great presentation and a most interesting theory of the beginning of religions.
posted by
TAPS.
on September 14, 2007 at 7:40 PM
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interesting
posted by
Amanda__
on September 14, 2007 at 6:39 PM
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Nautikos
Excellent, as usual.......I must share this: As I read, I suddenly felt like I was sitting in a Planetarium, or IMAX..... the lights are down, and the big screen is showing scenes of the people hunting and gathering in the day, the huge starlit night, the fire on the ground with all gathered around....etc....and your voice narrating the story of early man. I've also had flashes to the one Philosophy class I took....with discussions of Deism, Pantheism, Panentheism, etc....haven't had good discussions on them since. Well, I did go to a church once that was in the middle of Rice University campus....eggheads using highlighters and pencils on their Bible's.....I nearly freaked but never enjoyed organized religion as much.
posted by
Krisles
on September 14, 2007 at 10:58 AM
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An excellent synopsis, Naut.
posted by
saul_relative
on September 14, 2007 at 8:59 AM
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i enjoyed reading this post , thanks
posted by
callista22001
on September 14, 2007 at 7:08 AM
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OK......we're headed somewhere........lead on!
posted by
Corbin_Dallas
on September 14, 2007 at 4:37 AM
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Thanks, Justi
posted by
Nautikos
on September 14, 2007 at 4:33 AM
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Nautikos
Nicely done.
posted by
Justi
on September 13, 2007 at 9:19 PM
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