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posted by
TAPS.
on January 11, 2008 at 1:24 PM
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Re: You have accumelated admirable knowledge Naut
Thanks, lindo. The response is my next post...
posted by
Nautikos
on January 11, 2008 at 9:19 AM
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Re: I don't normally read this blog Naut, it's a little different to your other
Thanks, Kabu. Yep, it
is different! I do have a serious side...and I like to call 'em as I see 'em...
posted by
Nautikos
on January 11, 2008 at 8:45 AM
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Re: Re:
Thanks, Wavy...
posted by
Nautikos
on January 11, 2008 at 8:43 AM
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Re:
Thanks, sam. I try...
posted by
Nautikos
on January 11, 2008 at 8:42 AM
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You have accumelated admirable knowledge Naut
but it still is shaped but what is acessable to you through translated texts and of course of the views of those who have written them. Muslims endured the wrath of Quraych for many years including torturing the Muslims slaves and an embargo on selling them any food or dealing of them that led some to eating the soles of their shoes. With no resistance allowed to them they were eventually given permission to migrate and they did so in the dead of the night leaving whatever posessions they might have had to Quraysh hence the attack on the caravan that you find so unfathomable, and yet this single incident with the verses that have decreed the course of conduct during it was not intended as a blue print nor is it the standard method of securing cash for the state.
Throughout history no conquering army has not claimed the spoils of war, in modern days it maybe in the form of a monopoly over the natural resources of the conquered country as is the case in Iraq today, and as it was the case with western colonolization in the past and yet this is considered the victor's right to benefit rather than looting. Islam did expand by force, it was flanked by two great empires that would not have allowed a united arab state and a war was inevitable, it was geopolitics mainly although faith was the official slogan.
In many ways, Islam's strengths are at the same time its weakness, its holistic approach has made it into a restraining leash when in the wrong hand, the creed of Jihad ( meaning simply to strive) has become a sword on the necks of muslims and "infidels" alike, verses that were intended for one-use-only ended up being recurring mantras.
There is no doubt in my mind that Muslims are responsible for where they have ended, but weterners can help by not playing into the hands of the fanatics who thrive on the sound of the war drums, feed on the hatred, and play on every negative comment about Islam and Muslims to show their followers that the West can never be friendly, that it is out to get them and desicrate all that is dear and holly to them, they have used everything from the Danish cartoons to the War on Iraq and Afghanistan and the plight of the Palestentians (a strictly political problem that never stops being drags into the religious domain at every occasion- by all sides).
To escape this viscious cirlce of hatred appears to be an impossibilty, and yet there is a solution, strangely enough it lies in the hands of non-Muslims and not the other way around, and that is not becuase i am out to absolve my faith of the responsibilty, it is becuase i think the west is better equipped to be rational about the whole thing than the east is with its volatile politics and emotional people. In Arabic we say that a crooked line -in ploughing- is made by the bigger bull, i.e. the fault lies with the greater person for not using his strength to make amends. who is the bigger bull here? this is a question that might a new war in its own right!
posted by
lindo
on January 11, 2008 at 1:00 AM
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I don't normally read this blog Naut, it's a little different to your other
blogs and I admire your forthright views and ability to state them
posted by
Kabu
on January 10, 2008 at 8:15 PM
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Re:
sam444: I second that.
posted by
WavyDavy
on January 10, 2008 at 12:19 PM
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I am enamored with your knowledge of the areas you addressed n your composition. I like your blog a lot because I learn so much! sam
posted by
sam444
on January 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM
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