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posted by
kooka_lives
on January 21, 2008 at 3:04 PM
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Re: What Our Country Was Founded On?
We all need to shout what you have said from every roof top. These conservatives (closet fascists) need to be fought with the objective interpretation of a living Constitution, and we need to embrace those parts of the media not controlled by the 6 conservative organization that have allowed the rampant proliferation of America as a Theocracy. We can all turn to Air America, Progressive Talk Radio, The nation newspaper, Mother Goose, Thom Hartman, Lionell, Stephanie Miller, Randy Rhoads, Bill Press, and others to obtain the real information that mainstream media will not air, publish, or televise.
You rock
posted by
Cebes
on January 20, 2008 at 8:48 PM
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RSM
As I said in my comment to Davy, I understand just how next to impossible it would actually be for Huckabee to make the anti-freedom changes he wishes to promote, but that still does not mean that such people are not dangerous. He is a person running for the highest office of the country and for him to make such statements is not something we should think as being harmless.
I just said that there is clearly a Conservative movement to try and destroy the founding ideas of this country and you have yet to show me where I am wrong in that. If anything your comments only show you to be among those who wish to be part of this anti-freedom movement.
Strange, I never made the claim that this nation was founded by atheists, although at the time that was very much unacceptable and anyone who would make such a claim would not have been taken seriously and would have found it hard to have any influence at all. So they would instead just claim to be Deists in order to make sure that they would be listened to.
And even if every President was a Christians, that still does not mean we were founded as a Christians nation, since that very clearly and obviously goes against very ideas presented by the Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights. Seriously, only someone who truly hates and wishes to do away with the founding ideas of this country and what true freedom is all about would ever preach the ignorant ideas that this is a Christian nation and should be governed by religious ideas above the true idea of freedom.
I have no desire for anarchism and am lost as to where you think I have said any such things. I believe in FREEDOM, which you clearly hate and wish to do away with. As for being a Constitutionalist, I am lost as to where your reasoning goes. The Constitution IS the law of the land, but does not govern thought. It is the legal ideas that govern this country and actually keep us from anarchy and preserves our freedoms, allowing people to be free thinkers who can openly think outside of the box. I think you are getting the Bible and the Constitution confused. The Bible is the one that destroys freedom and elements free thinking, not the Constitution.
So it would seem that game, set and match go to me, not you.
posted by
kooka_lives
on January 20, 2008 at 7:30 AM
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What Our Country Was Founded On?
One thing is 100% certain and that is our nation was not founded on atheism. You fail to remember that any president must rely on congress to get anything passed and major changes in our present philosophy will not be voted into law. In other words, don't be paranoid about his being a reality.
Many of our founding fathers were Deists. The Deists did not believe in prophecy and miracles but they did believe in God. The remaining breakdown of the religious beliefs of our founding fathers were:
Among the Protestants Constitutional Convention delegates, 28 were Episcopalian, 8 were Presbyterians, 7 were Congregationalists, 2 were Lutherans, 2 were Dutch Reformed, and 2 were Methodists.
Gee, no atheist. Your desire for anarchism is not shared by many. Maybe you may present yourself politically as a Constitutionalist. Someone who holds the Constitution as the supreme being to govern all thought, which will eliminate all free thinkers who think outside the box.
posted by
RedStatesMan
on January 19, 2008 at 9:01 PM
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Re: RSM, You really are clueless
Kooka, you have a high number of people who disagree with your beliefs on this topic. In 232 years, there has never been a president of the United States who was an atheist. Game. Set. Match.
posted by
RedStatesMan
on January 19, 2008 at 8:26 PM
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Davy
I agree that what these nut-jobs are pushing for should never come to pass due to the extreme nature of it all, but that does not mean I still should not be worried when one of them gets to the level of being a possible contender for President. After all the Patriot Act should never have made through if our leaders were actually concerned with the freedom and needs of this country, yet it passed and ours freedoms were very openly attacked by it. After all we have put up with for Bush and his group of jackasses, it really does seem like there I a very active movement to try and destroy all that is truly valuable about our freedoms.
posted by
kooka_lives
on January 19, 2008 at 10:01 AM
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RSM, You really are clueless
Let's see, a powerful conservative contender for president of the United States says out right that he would like to change the Constitution in order to make it follow 'God's words' and you are trying to say I am grasping at straws? Anyone who believes we need to change the governing rules of our country in order to make them fit into one group's set of religious beliefs very clearly does not understand freedom at all and wishes to do away with the founding ideas of this country. No paranoia here. We have the idiot's own words that back up my concerns on this and we have the regularly preached ideas of the conservative fundamentalists in general. Hell, your posts here alone say I am right, since you clearly hate freedom and have shown yourself to have no understanding at all as how freedom really needs to work.
posted by
kooka_lives
on January 19, 2008 at 9:57 AM
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Relax!
To quote yourself, as you replied to a previous blog of mine:
"You really are grasping at straws here to make any kind of link at all. Your paranoia really is showing through. I don't know how anyone could possibly take you seriously after this post."
posted by
RedStatesMan
on January 18, 2008 at 9:15 PM
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Do The Conservatives Want To Destroy What This Country Was Founded On?
Kooka Lives: It's never going to happen. Even if Huckabee is elected president, he won't be able to do it legislatively. Amending the Constitution for anything is extremely difficult.
posted by
WavyDavy
on January 17, 2008 at 8:28 AM
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