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He would probably say that indirect force is used by manipulatory adults
and all nations, Naut. But I could be wrong...
posted by
saul_relative
on February 29, 2008 at 9:01 AM
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It all depends on what their convictions are, elysian -- for me. I think
some people are delusional, some power hungry, some extremely callous, some megalomaniacal, some manipulatory, some altruistic, some noble, etc., etc. Some are a combination of some of these things. Dying for one's convictions are noble only if the convictions are noble. Otherwise, dying for one's misinformed or delusional convictions is asisnine and probably for the better, so as not to spread the idiocy to too many more people. An example of this not being the case is suicide bombing...
posted by
saul_relative
on February 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM
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I see!
And what would David have to say about the
indirect use of force?
posted by
Nautikos
on February 25, 2008 at 4:04 AM
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(horrific)
for their own dishonest means. (excuse, I don't speak out much on the obvious)
~Ely
posted by
elysianfields
on February 24, 2008 at 12:10 PM
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A horrific travesty
albeit, I do respect those that sacrifice their very lives for their convictions. I do not respect those in authority that place innocence in harms way for their own
posted by
elysianfields
on February 24, 2008 at 12:08 PM
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Women do rule in some places, Sinome. It would be no better. It's all
about power, domination, leverage. I'm all for a matriarchal ruling system...
posted by
saul_relative
on February 23, 2008 at 11:30 PM
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What is there to be confused about? War is a terrible thing, it always has been and it will always be. There should never be wars waged, but there are. Our children should not die in battlefields of places they can not even pronounce. Money spent in killing should be spent in progress. Its a mess, given. Maybe they should let us women run the world
posted by
Sinome
on February 23, 2008 at 8:29 PM
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But it is a reminder, mysteria, and we need to be constantly reminded of
that devastating conflict. Look at the fact that it is rately mentioned in the news of late. That is not good...
posted by
saul_relative
on February 22, 2008 at 10:59 PM
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saul relative
where I live one of the landowners affixed a very bright LED display on the top of a five story building, counting off the money spent on the WII. The thing ticks off thousands and thousands each second.
Very avant garde of said landowner and assuredly opens the eyes of those who read it, but unfortunately in just gives me a sense of token gesture...
<<Me Looking perplexed...
Oh...Hello BTW 
posted by
mysteria
on February 21, 2008 at 12:49 AM
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Yeah, that's why the body count gets higher every day, sam... We've
been distracted by politics, the economy, and Britney... the war is now "winnable" as we (the U.S.) approach 4000 dead and 30000 wounded, not to mention the hundred thousand or so Iraqis that have been killed and the million or so displaced... It is the singlemost important thing this country is involved in at present and it isn't even making the evening news anymore...
posted by
saul_relative
on February 20, 2008 at 8:41 AM
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It is not making headlines so we must be making progress. sam
posted by
sam444
on February 20, 2008 at 2:53 AM
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I'm not confused anymore, SEEDLINGS. I'm just pissed at what that
moron and his bobbleheaded henchmen have got this country involved in...
posted by
saul_relative
on February 19, 2008 at 11:33 PM
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Saul
I'm still confused, however I like your quote.
posted by
SEEDLINGS
on February 19, 2008 at 6:28 PM
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