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Re: Men...humphhhh...
Zoe, you flatterer :), look who's talking, the accomplished writer herself, my pleasure - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on March 1, 2008 at 7:27 AM | link to this | reply

Men...humphhhh.
Well, well, well,.....I really like the fever felt while reading this..it takes a GOOD..no! slash that! It takes an excellent writer to evoke such personal emotion..and it certainly did in me!  Thanx! Z

posted by zoelovesprose on March 1, 2008 at 7:00 AM | link to this | reply

Re: At the risk of getting suck into a maelstrom...
Wow Carl, thank you for clarifying a few things.. I wish more men would open up and participate / communicate their inner feelings / fears, that is how men & women can hope to come closer and bind..thank you again, my friend..please do visit again when you can - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 29, 2008 at 9:26 AM | link to this | reply

At the risk of getting suck into a maelstrom
I think there is some confusion over the word "need" in this context.  I think what Ash was trying to say was that a woman can and should be competent and be her own person without a man in her life.

If she thinks otherwise, she is likely to become merely the slave of the first man who lays claim to her.  The man can abuse her and she will rebel and flirt and even fall in love with another, but will say that she loves her owner -- for that is what he is -- and try to convince herself that she does.

For those who have escaped that trap, or have never fell into it, there is the next stage of finding someone with whom the healthy two become the more complete "we".  The man and the woman each feel that they each need each other as a couple, their joint identity.

This is all quite apart from the sense of needing everybody else in the world, in John Donne's words:

"Every man's death diminishes me because I am involved in mankind.  Therefore, do not ask for whom the bell tolls.  It tolls for thee."

Carl Peter

posted by cpklapper on February 29, 2008 at 9:09 AM | link to this | reply

Re: I see this has caused a very lively discussion my dear Ash!!

this is true my dear friend, Maria, and that's the way it should be, don't you think ?...btw, read Yesh's comment below..ideal in my books..( Yesh, hope you read this, bro )! - Ash

 

posted by ash_pradhan on February 29, 2008 at 8:19 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: Re: everybody needs somebody..............
no offense taken, Mermaid..and for you, a thousand pardoned :) - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 29, 2008 at 8:15 AM | link to this | reply

I see this has caused a very lively discussion my dear Ash!!
all that remains for me to say is it works both ways my friend!  Many blessings and have a great weekend

posted by mariaki on February 29, 2008 at 3:38 AM | link to this | reply

Re: Re: everybody needs somebody..............
i mean no offense my love...no woman would say 'nay' to any man who knows how they ache...or where....sorry if you got me wrong dear...

posted by __Purple_Mermaid11__ on February 28, 2008 at 9:33 PM | link to this | reply

Re: everybody needs somebody..............
Mermaid, now that's an interesting perspective..thanx for dropping by..hope you feel well soon ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM | link to this | reply

everybody needs somebody..............
Real man Needs Real women too...nothing real needs a 'fake' dont we think? but can very well stand on their own with or without someone...but having 'someone' enhances the beauty of existence...the fire to want to excel to make someone proud or oneself....i believe real person...bearer of depth...can probably turn the unreal to become the kind of 'real man/woman' they would have wanted for themselves... (peace...)

posted by __Purple_Mermaid11__ on February 28, 2008 at 9:18 PM | link to this | reply

Re: ash
what's the difference :) ? - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 9:04 PM | link to this | reply

ash

dont get me wrong I love men, but really dont need one, but would love to have one

posted by Lanetay on February 28, 2008 at 9:01 PM | link to this | reply

Re: women need men and men need women...
but also action needs to follow words..hahaha..gotcha ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 8:58 PM | link to this | reply

may be some times I can't trust, but it doesn't mean I am against......
i guess women need men and men need women.....opposite attracts,

posted by star4sky5 on February 28, 2008 at 8:30 PM | link to this | reply

Hello Sue...
There you go..and it's futile to try to prove otherwise..good to hear from you - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 8:23 PM | link to this | reply

Re: So true Ash...
And some are not shy to express that..which some men love :) - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 8:18 PM | link to this | reply

there is no such terms real women and men, if it's a man, need a woman.....
if is a woman need a man......

posted by star4sky5 on February 28, 2008 at 8:16 PM | link to this | reply

So true Ash,  women appreciate men who know how they sway :-)

posted by Sinome on February 28, 2008 at 8:11 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Very much the truth!...
Wigopa, thanks much, welcome to my poetry blog, hope you enjoy it ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 7:54 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Hello Ash
Bhaskar, my friend, the wizard of blogitville, I'm so gald you see it that way ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 7:52 PM | link to this | reply

Very much the truth! Very good. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment!

posted by Wigopa_ on February 28, 2008 at 7:22 PM | link to this | reply

Hello Ash
There is a lovely sound to this truth

posted by Bhaskar.ing on February 28, 2008 at 7:22 PM | link to this | reply

Re: So well expressed !
Thank you Afzal..long time no hear..thanx for dropping by ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 6:40 PM | link to this | reply

So well expressed !

posted by afzal50 on February 28, 2008 at 6:23 PM | link to this | reply

Re: This piece is a keep shake...
Thank you, writer, for your frequent visits & encouraging comments ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 6:11 PM | link to this | reply

Writer, I can totally relate to this...let your friend know this could be..
This piece is a keep shake.  I'm glad you were able to relate to my last entry, that means a lot

posted by Thomas_Cornish on February 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM | link to this | reply

Re: very good point made ...
Alien, thank you...and hello from the mainland :) ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 3:05 PM | link to this | reply

very good point made I can't agree more

posted by AlienFemale on February 28, 2008 at 2:50 PM | link to this | reply

Re: very nice..
QG my dear friend, I know you'd know :) ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 2:48 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Ash-you write-"This is such crap"-so boldly! I am just wondering what kind
Chris, all kinds..hahaha..but really, my comments below elaborate on that ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 2:47 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Only a real man could pull that off ...
Sam, there are many fine real women & men out there, you're clearly one of them..I felt I owed it to them to let them know how the world perceives them, so not only would they continue to confidently practice their values, but also help those that for whatever reason may not be so endowed ! - Ash 

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 2:43 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Well said ash!
Thank you Ty, my dear friend, I know you'd know ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 2:30 PM | link to this | reply

Re: Amen!...I love a woman who can say I love you for you...
Yesh brother, these are words straight from my heart...such a woman will not settle for anything less than a real man, which speaks volumes for you ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 2:29 PM | link to this | reply

very nice

posted by quietguy7 on February 28, 2008 at 1:55 PM | link to this | reply

Ash-you write-"This is such crap"-so boldly! I am just wondering what kind
of 'women'-you have experienced? Ha Ha. Well done tho'! Chris.

posted by Scramble on February 28, 2008 at 12:56 PM | link to this | reply

Only a real man could pull that off to know what a real woman wants. Your tenderness makes you a real and fine person! sam

posted by sam444 on February 28, 2008 at 12:40 PM | link to this | reply

Well said ash!

posted by tyleness on February 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM | link to this | reply

Amen!
I love a woman who can say I love you for you, not for what you can provide.  You would know exactly what I mean if you met my wife.  She is a phenomenal person.  She is not just my wife, she is my friend and respected comrade.

posted by Yeshuan on February 28, 2008 at 9:50 AM | link to this | reply

Re: hmmm...my dear, tender and brave Poet ~...
Ely, the beadth & depth your heart, mind & soul are infinite ! - Ash

posted by ash_pradhan on February 28, 2008 at 9:43 AM | link to this | reply

hmmm...my dear, tender and brave Poet ~ I like your style.  Now, as far as women needing a 'man'?  well I can't stop there, I wonder of man needing a woman, a child needing a mother, a father...I suffer the word 'need' --- to require? to demand?  You see Ash, I pray my needs are simply met in the Love of Christ's arms then, I can be more satisfied by any condition this world may toss upon my little boat.  I guess this statement- your poem depends on who's needing...who's bleeding and who's reading.  It's all about 'individualism' I believe.  I like your style, it makes me think deeply...from the pith of my soul ~ ~Ely

posted by elysianfields on February 28, 2008 at 9:21 AM | link to this | reply