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Re: Nautikos
Don't tempt me, Wiley, don't tempt me...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 28, 2008 at 6:59 AM
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Re: That is sad
Well, Kaboom, there
is another perspective, possibly a bit more positive, that I may briefly allude to in the next installment...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 28, 2008 at 6:58 AM
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Nautikos
I learn something every time I read you hoss, I didn't know what quantum Physics was 'til now and thank you my friend.
posted by
WileyJohn
on March 27, 2008 at 8:56 PM
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That is sad
all that darkness... But I love that you will always be 'at home' that filled me with warmth! I am beginning to look forward to the next post
posted by
KaBooM62
on March 24, 2008 at 10:24 PM
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Re: Nautikos
Okay, Wiley, this is where things get a bit tricky. Einstein's theories are effective theories that 'work', i.e. they accurately explain and predict events in the world as we 'normally' understand it, more or less. They are classical theories that pertain to the macro world. The 'inaccuracies' arise when seen from the point of view of the very strange world of particle or quantum physics. That's not a reflection on Einstein, but the result of the fact that particles don't act the way they 'should' and that there is a hell of a lot of stuff we don't understand. And I certainly don't want to get into quantum mechanics - I don't want to lose all my readers...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 21, 2008 at 4:43 AM
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Nautikos
Thanks for taking the time to comment to my comment and it was very helpful when you put it that way. As far as Einstein's theory is concerned, I read that somewhere it wasn't accurate, but then I'm a 2+2+5 so go figure.
posted by
WileyJohn
on March 20, 2008 at 7:24 PM
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Re: Interesting and informative,
Thanks, hagi. It's sometimes a little difficult to condense things like this into short posts, and I am really glad when I succeed and people understand and appreciate it...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 20, 2008 at 5:17 AM
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Re: Load the ships, Captain...to what end?...
Thanks, teddypoet. And you're absolutely right: it is all totally humbling! The more I have studied, this and other things, I am just in complete awe...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 20, 2008 at 5:12 AM
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Thanks, TAPS. Even though we won't hear it, it's possible that
somebody might, because all the signals we're sending out here continue on, forever, or at least until absorbed somewhere...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 20, 2008 at 5:03 AM
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Re: I accept everything and know that it will be the proper and correct
I agree, benzinha! Since we have no choice but to accept, we might as well accept gladly...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 20, 2008 at 4:58 AM
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Yes, sam, I'm fairly sure we won't be around, but the very thought is saddening...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 20, 2008 at 4:56 AM
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Re: Nautikos
Well, Wiley, old buddy, you see, the Sun is a nuclear reactor, like all stars, that works by fusing things (the atoms of hydrogen) rather than splitting things (the atoms of uranium), as we do. In the process, the Sun produces heavier elements, and heat. We get the heat, or at least some of it, for free. We know of course that the Sun's amount of fuel is limited (we know pretty well how much there is). Because of the loss of mass, at some point (in about 5 billion years, maybe 6) the core will contract, heating up and expanding the outer shell - and by then at the latest, we're history. (I say 'at the latest' beause in reality the sun gets hotter all the time anyway, and will probably long, long before then have boiled away our water and our atmosphere...)
And as far as Einstein's two Relativity Theories are concerned, nobody has yet found much fault with them, but you can always give it a try...
posted by
Nautikos
on March 20, 2008 at 4:54 AM
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Interesting and informative,
thank you for this entry, I really appreciate somebody adding it all up!
posted by
hagi
on March 20, 2008 at 2:13 AM
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Load the ships, Captain...to what end?...
Absolutely brilliant foreplay of the accepting mind, my friend...great, humbling schematics to pore over...
posted by
teddypoet_TheGoodByeFade
on March 19, 2008 at 11:54 PM
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Nautikos, so fascinating it all is. You've done a grand job of condensing it all down to something we can digest in a few moments of reading. When that last star goes out for the last time, do you think we'll hear for the last time, "Goodnight, John Boy."
posted by
TAPS.
on March 19, 2008 at 11:53 PM
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I accept everything and know that it will be the proper and correct
thing at the time.
"This too shall pass", even covers universes and we see it in the life of an ant and in the passing of all that we see through our eyes and the Hubble Telescope.
posted by
benzinha
on March 19, 2008 at 11:40 PM
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I think it will be sad when the last star fades. sam
posted by
sam444
on March 19, 2008 at 3:52 PM
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Nautikos
I have read all of this, and confess that I am not all that sorry I didn't go to university for a lot of years or anything. I wouldn't have wanted to discover things like this, which I find difficult to believe in any case;
"And even when it gets close, it won’t be much of a problem for us, since we won’t be here. Because the Sun, which has a limited lifespan, like all stars, will turn into a red giant at around the same time and will fry probably every living thing on this globe, even the cockroaches… "
How sad, that is but what isn't sad is that I have this friend Nautikos, whom I hold in very high esteem, and I'd like him to know I at least made the effort to understand even that which I don't believe.
Now, is it not a truth that even Einstein's Theory of Relativity isn't all it was cracked up to be?
posted by
WileyJohn
on March 19, 2008 at 1:34 PM
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