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I would like to respectfully disagree, chinartree...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 23, 2008 at 3:03 AM
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nobody has a control
Nobody has any control on any time.Everything is destined.
posted by
chinartree
on May 23, 2008 at 3:01 AM
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Not quite, Dark Moon. When it comes to Big Brother, I'm rather
subversive...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 23, 2008 at 3:01 AM
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nobody has a control
Nobody has any control on
posted by
chinartree
on May 23, 2008 at 3:01 AM
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nobody has a control
Nobody has any
posted by
chinartree
on May 23, 2008 at 3:01 AM
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nobody has a control
Nobody has
posted by
chinartree
on May 23, 2008 at 3:01 AM
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Thanks, teddy...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 23, 2008 at 3:00 AM
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You were, mysteria...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 23, 2008 at 2:59 AM
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We're an extension of the past, majestic. But we don't have to acknowledge
it...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 23, 2008 at 2:58 AM
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I agree that control and manipulation are two different things, Whiskey. I
was pointing out that the end result is the same to the target. And you can control and manipulate the past. You can make it irrelevant and revise it to your bidding. We have quite a few idiots doing that in the United States right now. Spinning the past to justify their ideology.
posted by
saul_relative
on May 23, 2008 at 2:56 AM
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....do you love Big Brother.....? Moon 
posted by
magic_moon
on May 21, 2008 at 4:33 PM
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Re: When I first read nineteen eighty four I thought I was reading current
"...the car is our wheelchair..."...how to the point! Well-researched, my friend!
posted by
teddypoet_TheGoodByeFade
on May 21, 2008 at 4:19 PM
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When I first read nineteen eighty four I thought I was reading current
events....
Rage Against The Machine - Testify
Album: The Battle Of Los Angeles
The movie ran through me
The glamour subdue me
The tabloid unite me
I'm empty please fill me
Mister anchor assure me
That Baghdad is burning
Your voice it is so soothing
That cunning mantra of killing
I need you my witness
To dress this up so bloodless
To numb me and purge me now
Yes the car is our wheelchair
My witness your coughing
Oily silence mocks the legless
Now traveling in coffins
But on the corner
The jury's sleepless
We found your weakness
And it's right outside our door
Now testify
With precision you feed me
My witness I'm hungry
Your temple it calms me
So I can carry on
My slaving sweating the skin right off my bones
On a bed of fire I'm choking on the smoke that fills my home
The wrecking ball rushing
My witness your blushing
The pipeline is gushing
While here we lie in tombs
While on the corner
The jury's sleepless
We found your weakness
And it's right outside your door
Now testify
Mass graves for the pump and the price is set
Who controls the past now controls the future
Who controls the present now controls the past
Who controls the past now controls the future
Who controls the present now?
Now testify
posted by
mysteria
on May 21, 2008 at 4:16 PM
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isn't that the truth. Or should we say we need to figure out if we are the future or the past!
posted by
majesticvisions
on May 21, 2008 at 9:34 AM
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No, I think
Straightforward is correct. Control and manipulation are two different things. Nobody can control the past, and regardless of the propaganda it has a fascinating habit of sticking it's head up when people least expect it.
posted by
Antipodean
on May 20, 2008 at 7:22 AM
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If the end result is the same, it matters not if it is true or manipulated,
Straightforward, to the target. Like political strategists say: Perception is everything. Doesn't matter if it is true...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 20, 2008 at 2:10 AM
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Controls the past or manipulates perceptions of the past to control the
future?
posted by
Straightforward
on May 19, 2008 at 10:44 AM
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By the controller, Azur...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM
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It is, sam, it is...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM
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Sorry, dpaulino... I didn't mean to do that...
posted by
saul_relative
on May 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM
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I always wonder how
control is defined.
posted by
Azur
on May 18, 2008 at 2:01 PM
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I think this is so true! sam
posted by
sam444
on May 18, 2008 at 7:08 AM
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Interesting quote...makes you think.
posted by
dpaulinomorris24
on May 17, 2008 at 8:35 PM
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