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I thank you so for your many kindnesses - if you know any Aussies please be so kind as to ask them to review my latest poem 'Walk About's Law'  yours truly

posted by Smittenheimer on July 21, 2008 at 8:59 PM | link to this | reply

me, too, Naut-- I try to be mindful and grateful of the cost of it
and avoid supporting the ecologically and spiritually unsound industries.

posted by Ciel on July 21, 2008 at 7:05 AM | link to this | reply

Ciel
Our native hunters would habitually apologize to their prey and thank them for providing them with their sustenance - a commendable sentiment! We, on the other hand, have chicken 'factories' and slaughter houses that can make your toes curl (and I don't know if that came out the way it did because I had just read about your big toe, and may it heal promptly, lol), but I still eat meat, although in moderation... 

posted by Nautikos on July 21, 2008 at 6:43 AM | link to this | reply

Straightforward, if I understand you, I am not saying that I am opposed

to eating meat.  I am saying it is better to eat meat, if we are going to, being mindful of its living source, not simply taking it for granted that animals owe us their bodies and lives simply for our convenience. 

It's about respect and gratitude, and about "behaving as if the God in all life matters."

(That quote, by the way, is the title of a book.  When I first read this phrase, it rang a big bell for me, and unlocked some doors to new understanding.  Never read the book itself...)

posted by Ciel on July 20, 2008 at 10:24 PM | link to this | reply

Didn't get it. To meat or not to meat.
The start sounded like to meat.

posted by Straightforward on July 20, 2008 at 9:29 PM | link to this | reply

posted by Star5_ on July 20, 2008 at 8:19 PM | link to this | reply

TAPS, your blogs so often inspire me
and get me thinking and writing!

posted by Ciel on July 20, 2008 at 5:32 PM | link to this | reply

Troosha, things like the chicken barns & slaughter house procedures

make me willing to pay a bit more for more naturally raised meat.  It is not a bad thing to eat less meat, either, if paying more cuts too deep into the budget. 

I'm thinking that a natural life cut short is better than a hellish one of any length.

 

 

posted by Ciel on July 20, 2008 at 1:42 PM | link to this | reply

M's Goddess, we're clearly on the same team!

I am not opposed to hunting:  as stewards, it falls on us to do the work of all the predators we have destroyed over the ages.  It is the attitude that only our prerogatives matter, that animals are things, and possessions to do with as we please, that I call callous.  "What if the God in all life mattered?"

I love how you state your second point!  Beautifully put!

posted by Ciel on July 20, 2008 at 1:38 PM | link to this | reply

Ciel
I guess the debate on killing animals that are running free versus farmed or raised in a caged enviroment comes into play.  And the debate on whether raising animals for slaughter in a controlled environment also comes into play.  Ummm....  We eat a lot of chicken around here and if you've ever been to a huge chicken barn it's pretty gross.  But nonetheless I eat my chicken and enjoy a steak every now and then.  I liked your line about being stewards - not owners...

posted by Troosha on July 20, 2008 at 12:56 PM | link to this | reply

I can agree with the spirit...
of what you are saying but hunting does thin out overgrowth within species. That being said, a moment of thanks and reverence is as good for your soul as the flesh is for your body.

posted by mikes_goddess on July 20, 2008 at 12:13 PM | link to this | reply

Re: ciel, Amen to that!
Very good, Ciel.  You always do that so well.  I was thinking that sort of message, but it surely did not come out in my post.   Thank you for your input.

posted by TAPS. on July 20, 2008 at 11:34 AM | link to this | reply

ciel, Amen to that!

posted by kingmi on July 20, 2008 at 11:18 AM | link to this | reply