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Ciel

Excellent post. And I like Krisles story of the empty 'ritual' of cutting off the end of the ham - our lives are full of those. To paraphrase Socrates: The unexamined ritual is not worth performing...

And thanks for the promo... 

posted by Nautikos on October 1, 2008 at 5:41 AM | link to this | reply

Krisles, that's a great story, and example of the joy of tradition!

Even habits are the result of beliefs--sometimes they are very casual, or maybe very deeply-held so that the holder doesn't realize... The belief in Grandma's cooking technique, as many beliefs do, changed its nature when brought up-to-date, and the legacy of belief becomes a matter of choice.

Then there are plenty of other beliefs to influence that choice! 

posted by Ciel on September 28, 2008 at 8:19 AM | link to this | reply

Ciel

Excellent post.....so many people never examine their core beliefs and practices....especially ones that are actually, when really looked at, "habits" rather than beliefs at all.  A silly story that illustrates this that I always loved to use is the one about the woman who always cut off the end of her ham at Easter before she baked it, just like her mother had...one year her husband asked her why she cut that end off, and she didn't know....so they asked her mother why....and she didn't know other than her mother had....so they asked grandmother why when they visited her later that afternoon at the nursing home....she was puzzled and didn't remember at first, then finally remembered it was because the only pan she had that would fit into her small oven was never large enough to hold an Easter ham......two generations of women later were still cutting off the end of their ham, without thought because they thought that was how you had to cook a ham to make it taste like Grandma's.

I used to do mediation work....and I most often found pride to be the main stumbling block for people to get to the point of giving up on thinking they had to win....too many think anything less than winning, is losing....unfortunately, our culture does a lot to foster that belief....versus the win-win thinking that is needed.

 

posted by Krisles on September 27, 2008 at 6:35 PM | link to this | reply

Or within an individual, Troosha...
Which goes back to the 'Parts' model of the human being...  for which this method of therapy was originally developed.  I've decribed it in more detail in the early pages of this blog...  but, in brief, it's that when we say, "Part of me wants to do this, but part of me wants to do that..." is it quite true!

posted by Ciel on September 27, 2008 at 10:15 AM | link to this | reply

Ciel
I like your statement about conflict being irresolvable unless both parties acknowledge they cannot win. It’s so very true that regardless of the conflict – be it between nations, within a nation, or between people -  something’s gotta give.

posted by Troosha on September 27, 2008 at 7:55 AM | link to this | reply

Mystiic, Sam, Wacky and Bo, thanks!

This is a natural process, an ability we all have, but we lose touch with it when our hearts and minds and energy-systems get all clotted up with STUFF! 

Gapgohen recently wrote a blog about Judaism and the notion of original sin.  I recommend it!

posted by Ciel on September 26, 2008 at 8:24 PM | link to this | reply

I believe
that what you say is true!

A rose or two and
Woof! from the wonder dog and from me too!

posted by Whacky on September 26, 2008 at 7:48 PM | link to this | reply

I like your thoughts. I am promoting this series as well.  sam

posted by sam444 on September 26, 2008 at 1:09 PM | link to this | reply

I really connect with what you said.
This is something we all can practice in our day to day lives to move towards peace.

posted by mystiik on September 25, 2008 at 1:37 PM | link to this | reply