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Re: Not so Mordent
You can say whatever you want most of this planet is subjective.
For example you like newspaper ads and Utube videos. Where are they getting their facts?
Who'se facts do you trust? Why do you place so much trust in someone else?
And you know the right thinks the left is all emotion and no logic and of course you turn it around. What good is this?
You believe FOX is right-wing propaganda/void of facts and the right says CNN is leftist bias for sure.
Whether a leftist in San Francisco or a right-winger in Texas you all feel you have the facts and logic.
You don't frustrate me at all. I just view you as another whose convinced they have the golden scepter.
posted by
mordent
on November 4, 2008 at 10:04 AM
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Not so Mordent
You see I have this thing called an 'Open mind' which allows me to take in fresh information and process it to form new ways of thinking. By using facts, logic and reasoning I am able to grasp ideas that I may not agree with find value in them, even if the whole of the idea has flaws. Also, if someone uses fact, logic or reasoning and are able to show that I have made a mistake, I am able to admit to that.
The problem is that there are so many like you who have no grasp as to how facts, logic or reasoning works that they get frustrated with me when I want them to use such things to prove me wrong of defend their views.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM
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Re: mordent, do you even have a clue?
You can apply the last sentence to the entire human race. Please include yourself
posted by
mordent
on November 3, 2008 at 11:42 AM
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mordent, do you even have a clue?
You hold a high double standard and instead of actually dealing with the issue at hand, staying on topic and proving something by use of logic, reasoning or facts to back your views up, you go and talk gibberish. In fact that last comment was a huge batch of mindless gibberish, most of which was rally pointless.
You are a conservative who basically plays the same hypocritical game that all conservatives play. You have no integrity at all and basically are as clueless as it comes.
And what the hell are you talking about when you say "And to prove how truly psychotic and lacking in originality you are you tell me to write the assignment I gave to you. Think of your own assignments for me, not the ones I gave you dummy!"
What I suggest you write is nothing at all like the dumb as it gets ideas you were suggesting I write. Now I was basically trying to get you to see reality and understand that for everything you blindly attack Obama about, using some of the worst propaganda available, that shows you do none of your own thinking, all of that kind of crap is the same kind of crap out there about McCain. The only difference is that those siding with Obama have not lowered themselves to the level you embrace where you make idiotic personal attacks instead of focusing on the real issues. I was not seriously telling you to write such articles. And since unlike you I do my own thinking, I am not about to write one of those really dumbass ideas you keep on preaching about. I mean "Republican terrorists don't get the same treatment that leftists homos do." just is gibberish. But you are right, Bush (One of the greatest Republican terrorists of all time, who has done immeasurable harm to this country and the world) is not treated any where near as bad as a hard working gay man by dumbasses who stereotype and generalize just because they are too ignorant to understand the big picture.
I do not have all the facts, but unlike you I use actual facts and not just meaningless ideas I pull out of my ass.
And once more I see that instead of actually addressing the issues at hand, you have gone and changed subject and tried to get no one to notice that you are unable to back up your own claims.
I am great at fiction, but I am able to keep fiction and fact separate. You practically admit that you mix the two in your writings here. You don't grasp how facts work and you don't grasp how fiction works. All you understand is what you believe and it doesn't matter at all if you are proven wrong, because in your mind truth is illrelivant.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 2, 2008 at 5:13 PM
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Re: Mordent, you are an idiot
The only idiot here is you.
You're a broken record as no matter how many times someone tells you something you don't seem to get it.
I won't state my case about the Hollywood homo incident as I have made it quite clear to any sane person which obviously you are not.
The truth is you don't want to get it because then you're need to argue would dissapate. This is because you're very angry person who isn't confronting your true issues.
I've never seen anyone with such a huge word count that says nothing.
If you removed all the insults and telling someone how full of BS they are and how great you are and how you have all the facts you would have no post.
And to prove how truly psychotic and lacking in originality you are you tell me to write the assignment I gave to you. Think of your own assignments for me, not the ones I gave you dummy!
Now listen up liberal....go write about how Republican terrorists don't get the same treatment that leftists homos do. And then write the one about the Christ killers.
Quit writing about how you have all the facts and everyone else is full of BS, childish and all that. Lets see how far you can go.
By the way I'm sure you're great at fiction since libreral concepts are full-blown fantasy.
posted by
mordent
on November 2, 2008 at 4:49 PM
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Mordent, you are an idiot
Wow , where do I start with this one...
Your double standard is there because the truth (Not my 'truth', but the undeniable truth) went fully against you and you did nothing to correct yourself.
There were already Obama effigies out there and no one was making as big of a deal out of them as your side did over this one Palin effigy. You tried to make it look like the 'left' was the only side doing the effigy thing and really went into how bad it made them look.
Now since there have been several Obama effigies and I have only seen the report often one Palin effigy, then should you not make some major corrections to your post on the issue and show that it is really the Conservatives who are filled with hate?
But no, you are a full hypocrite and play the double
standard just like all the other Conservatives here. You used the idea of a effigy to make the liberals look bad, but are so lacking in integrity that you are not about to take the same kind of thing and show that the conservatives are really no better. As far as you are concerned it only matter that eh other side is doing such thing, your side somehow is not held at the same level.
Go and write an honest post about the hatefulness of the Conservative which is displayed by their need to make Obama effigies. Write about all the 'shady' characters McCain has associated with during his time in politics, including convicted domestic terrorists, fanatical religious dumbasses obsessed with genocide and various other criminal elements. Btu such facts (Not my 'facts', but undeniable facts) go against what you wish to believe, so you ignore them.
You dislike facts because for the most part the real, undeniable facts go against what you wish to believe, of that I have no doubt. I presented undeniable facts to you and your cower away, doing all you can to distract from the issue.
I use facts in my writing that need facts, such as my posts about religion and politics and imagination in my writings that are called "fiction' where it is proper to use such. Obviously you seem to be confused as to how facts and imagination work, since you seem to think the two are interchangeable. I guess that really does show how you can believe in all the BS of conservative thinking. I mean it would take a lot of imagination and a very weak grasp of reality to think McCain would make a good President. You have shown me that the majority of Conservative ideas are based on imagination, which suddenly makes it easier to understand where they come form. I guess if I was delusional and lived in a fantasy world, Conservative ideas might make sense to me as well. As a writer of fiction however, I guess I am just better able to divide reality from fantasy than you are, and so I see just how moronic Conservative thinking really is.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM
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Re: Mordent, what he hell are you talking about?
The double standard I'm talking about is that I support those homos right to hang an effigy as you were saying according to you that is that Repubs were saying they should tear it down all the while doing it themselves.
One more time I'm simply saying that everyone has a right to decorate their house the way they want.
THe concept of "Jesus followers" is in fact mine but it would be a great post for a liberal to write.
Work of art is just an expression as no matter what the topic you can and should explore the theories of these concepts.
I've told you about your obsession with facts and if you want to continue to bash your "facts" against Republican "facts" go right ahead man.
It takes balls to use ones imagination and tackle controversial subjects as opposed to just posting articles on the latest gossip.
How about gather some facts and then add some imaginiation and theory to it and then you ...never mind man just forget it.
Just keep arguing "facts" with republicans.
posted by
mordent
on November 2, 2008 at 11:42 AM
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Mordent, what he hell are you talking about?
You went off on how horrible the liberals were and used the effigy of Palin as the justification for this. Your post was a total load of BS that was you just attacking liberal ideas blindly with no logic, reasoning or facts to back up what you were saying. You very much are one who fits every level of following the double-standard I am talking about here.
All you inspired me to do was to show how hypocritical you are those who think like you are.
I have no desire to write the post you for some reason think I should. How is it thinking of myself to write a post you have told me to write? How is that showing balls? That would not be using my own imagination. Seriously, do you have the slightest clue as to what you are talking about? You are saying I should think for myself by letting you do my thinking for me...
I write what I feel I need to write about. I don't care what the papers say and I only find articles on-line in order to provide evidence to back up what I write about.
Here in the political section I don't care about writing any 'works of art', that I put into my fiction that I write. Here I wish to deal with FACTS and since the conservatives are bunch of idiots who are clueless about facts and ignore so much of the reality around them, I often have to write such rants to counter these stupidity.
posted by
kooka_lives
on November 2, 2008 at 9:42 AM
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Hey at least I don't fit your the double-standard you're talking about. I said I was all for those boys being able to do their thing.
And I see I have inspired you to do your own take on it. As I obviously have done with your previous post. I'm really proud of you he he.
However I did give you an assignment to do a post on how the modern Jesus followers may have been the types who murdered him.
I told you to start using your own imagination the way a novelist or poet might and create your own version of this.
I thought of the concept (naturally) now it's up to you. It's a perfect leftist post. Get off the newspapers my dear and use your own brain.
Let me see a work of art instead of some little "there I told you so" rant with "here" articles posted.
Show some fuck*n balls and do it!!
posted by
mordent
on November 2, 2008 at 9:29 AM
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Down With Effigies
Frankly, I find hanging effigies of any of the candidates in poor taste. But I agree with your argument in principle. The Republicans attack using innuendo and outright lies, and then complain when the Democrats exaggerate a little. But the real problem, as I see it, is that many conservative seem to believe their own propaganda. They are literally scared out of their wits. One can hope it is just posturing, and they will be restored to reason after the election. We'll soon find out.
posted by
mousehop
on November 1, 2008 at 6:08 PM
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