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Hi Ariala!
...well said, my friend... and I agree that is the danger... and the irony... all the current trouble with wars, terrorists, etc ...is based on religion and money! ...you know it's bad when even believers in something that creates all this infinite stuff, like me and you, will actually defend the 'atheists' right to express their point of view ...without any threats from us of any kind... thanks for your continued support.
posted by
MasonGarrett
on January 3, 2010 at 9:23 AM
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Hi northsage 45!
..thank you for your input ...yes, rational human beings like you and I can agree to disagree without breaking each other's heads ...astrology is simply God's mechanics, how the cosmic machine moves... we've seen what the Moon can do to water, most of the planet is water, and the Moon moves all of it, the tides, twice a day. The bulk of our bodies is water... ergo, the Moon moves us... even cops who don't believe in astrology pack extra ammo and double check their kalvar vests on full Moons.. the proof is on their log books... the crazies come out on the full Moon... to make you a believer I would have to to do your horoscope. The big difference is... I'm never going to tell you that you're going to burn in hell if you don't believe me and give me your money. Thanks for dropping by.
posted by
MasonGarrett
on January 3, 2010 at 9:12 AM
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A BIG amen to your statement: "separate the church and the state! " If you
don't, whose church will we unite with the state? The majority religion? What about the minority among them? It is DANGEROUS and INSANE when ANY church takes control of the government. The Middle Ages is a good example of that! The Catholic hierachy killed thousands of innocent non-Catholics. The Nazis through extreme atheism (another religion or philosophy) killed the Jews. Ethnic and religious cleansing in the name of a majority creed in charge will always lead to persecution. The only way a government (AND a church) is safe is to keep religion OUT of it.
posted by
Ariala
on January 3, 2010 at 5:48 AM
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You are a facinating dichotomy, my friend
Mason,
I couldn't agree with you more, about organized religion in general, and The Catholic Church heirarchy in particular. This megalithic, arrogantly inflexible, corrupt organization has been "hoist from it's own petard," due largely, to the actions and inactions, of the people running what has become a racket for extorting money from the hordes of it's congreants.
I mistrust the motives of most religions, because they all demand absolute compliance with ALL their strict rules of behavoir. (often including, what and when one is allowed to EAT!) Why would any Diety care about the dietary preferences, of the Diety's creations? This is all about church control of human behavoir and minds, not to mention their money!
You and I may wonder what was so hard for millions of people to see, about this and other religious organizations, when it is just plain obvious to us.
Humans seem to need some "Big Daddy in the Sky," to explain the inexplainable, and charletons will rush to fill and exploit that void-like need.
That said, I am also mystified at the belief in astrology, which strikes me as the other side of the same coin, no offence intended.
Guy
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northsage_45
on January 3, 2010 at 5:18 AM
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