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Gay Marriage
I think there are two issues here, not one. T he first is individual rights for gays as individual and then the other issue is gay marriage. Unforunately, there seems to some switching of the issues here. Gay marriage is uncharted ground for this country, and I think Pres. Bush is wrong to propose a constitutional ammendment. That would be a large step towards the elimination of seperation of church and state. Even though I am personally opposed to the idea of gay marriage sanctioned by the state, I really don't know how to deal with issue after that.
posted by
sablei
on February 25, 2004 at 12:41 PM
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Not that I would have voted for him anyway...
but I think that he's just bending to political pressure on this one. Even the Dems don't seem to have a spine about this issue. Frustrates me. If marriage is a religious ceremony and tied to the Bible then government has no business in any of them. If not, then we should have the right to marry whoever we want.
posted by
TooeleWriterGal
on February 25, 2004 at 7:30 AM
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No it's not. It's VERY discriminatory
"That's equal access and non-discriminatory. "
It discriminates against two consenting adults who would LIKE to marry but cannot for no other reason than their gender. This is sexual discrimination. The government cannot discriminate against me based on my gender - that's a law! And not allowing me to marry someone because I'm female is discriminating against me because of my gender - just because that person happens to ALSO be female.
If you would substitute black and white for male & female, you would see the discrimination. This is like saying that blacks can only marry blacks and whites can only marry whites. That may be the way things work out for MOST people, but it's still discrimination to the interracial couple who don't fit the norm.
--T99
posted by
Tamara99
on February 24, 2004 at 5:44 PM
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Good Point On The Religion Issue, Mum
I sit corrected.
posted by
Jemmie211
on February 24, 2004 at 3:25 PM
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Okay, whoa. Wait a minnit....
Gay people have the same exact rights as non-gay people to get married. Two guys, whether they are gay or striaght, cannot marry each other. Two girls, gay or straight, cannot marry each other. But a girl, gay or straight, and a guy, gay or straight, can marry each other any old time. That's equal access and non-discriminatory.
They also have the same right to pursue happiness however they like---so long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others. If two guys find happiness in each other's arms, fine. Pursue away. Ditto for the girls. No one is telling them to stop pursuing persons of the same gender---well, no one with legal clout, anyway.
There is no separation of church and state in the Constitution. The Constitution says "Congress shall make no law...with respect to religion...." The idea of the "wall of separation" came from a private letter that one of the framers wrote to a friend. But his private correspondence does not equate to legislation. The idea was that America should never have a government-sanctioned national church, like England does. The idea was NOT that we should be free from religion, nor that religious concerns and views should be ignored in evaluating legislation.
posted by
editormum
on February 24, 2004 at 2:05 PM
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Drunkenness is also a sin. Dubya should preach that to his two daughters.
posted by
msaries
on February 24, 2004 at 1:17 PM
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And from the heart is
very passionate. Agreed. And thank you!
posted by
CatLadyintheAttic
on February 24, 2004 at 11:46 AM
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